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Default Need help with over boost - 02-16-2022, 02:05 PM

Hi I have a 335i n55 e93. FBO jb4 I keep getting thrown to safety map 4 from maps 1,2,and 5 for over boost can someone help me figure out this issue here is a log from this morning.
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Default 02-16-2022, 02:12 PM

Lower FF to 50 and do a few proper 3rd and 4th gear pulls so it can adapt.



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Default 02-16-2022, 07:04 PM

Thank you for the suggestion
I set the FF to 50 and did some pulls it didn't kick me into map 4 as fast but still did and noticed it changed the FF to 80 again how many pulls will it take you think?
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Default 02-16-2022, 07:17 PM

Here are some logs
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Default 02-17-2022, 12:31 PM

It appears when you underboost up top it raising FF and then you underboost down low. Might need to do a little duty bias tuning to prevent this.

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Default 02-18-2022, 02:16 PM

Thank you for your suggestions.
I dont really know much about tuning so I'm a little intimated by map 6. But I followed the settings from the link you sent. It seemed to help but still got thrown into map4 and FF was set at 50 but went to 67 here is a log
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Default 02-20-2022, 08:12 PM

Here more logs with proper pulls this time had half engine light come on also
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Default 02-22-2022, 01:45 PM

The user adjustment values aren't for just map 6, they are for all maps.

You didn't do any actual DB tuning, you just set them all to 50 which is the same thing as leaving them all at zero.

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Default 02-22-2022, 07:34 PM

Thank you very much for your help.
Oh ok I didn't realize that was for all maps nor did I know duty bias 50 was the same as 0
I did the settings you posted seemed to run a little better but still got pushed to map 4 and no error codes
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Default 02-23-2022, 10:25 AM

Definitely need to get a 3.5 Bar TMAP. You are limited to 20.9 PSI. Looks like you are running into your boost safety (20 psi) and it's kicking you to safety (Map 4). The link below will take you to the proper TMAP for your car
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Default 02-23-2022, 12:25 PM

What flash are you running? That looks like a hybrid flash but you're on a stock turbo so the DME BT is very unrealistic. Consequently you are underboosting up top and WGDC is maxed out. This will cause the JB4 to increase FF and then you'll overboost down low.

Load the proper BEF and enable bit 6 under additional options for the BEF.



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Default 02-24-2022, 04:55 PM

I'm on the stock turbo I was under the impression that the safe limit is around 20 to 21 psi should I adjust the limit to 21?
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Default 02-24-2022, 08:06 PM

Here's another log with bit 6 and boost safely set to 21.0
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Default 02-25-2022, 03:15 PM

This log looks much better. Make sure to update to the latest firmware as well!


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Default 02-25-2022, 03:19 PM

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Here's another log with bit 6 and boost safely set to 21.0
What fuel are you using?


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Default 02-25-2022, 04:03 PM

All but the last log has been Chevron CA 91oct
Last log was Chevron CA 91 with E85 about 40%
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Default 02-25-2022, 04:21 PM

Have you upgraded hpfp, coils or plugs?
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Default 02-25-2022, 06:08 PM

Here is a log after updating firmware from 17 to 18
Boosting is lower for some reason
I haven't upgraded hpfp but I did buy new oem coils and ngk 2 step colder plugs
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Default 02-25-2022, 06:13 PM

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Here is a log after updating firmware from 17 to 18
Boosting is lower for some reason
I haven't upgraded hpfp but I did buy new oem coils and ngk 2 step colder plugs
Which OEM? Eldor? Did you regap the ngk plugs? (Just asking to help folks know all the impactful details).
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Default 02-25-2022, 10:21 PM

NGK SILZKBR8D8S (2 Step colder) Plugs
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Default 02-28-2022, 01:28 PM

FF is too low, set FF to 80 and do another log.



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Default 02-28-2022, 07:31 PM

Ok I set FF to 80 but it went to 106 after this pull and to map 4 here is the log
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Default 03-01-2022, 12:21 PM

Going to have to be very aggressive with the duty biases to resolve this. You are still underboosting too much up top so FF keeps rising and then creates overboost down low.

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Default 03-02-2022, 06:41 PM

I changed the settings to what you suggested and didn't get thrown into map4 from 5 but did from map 2 and 6
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Default 03-03-2022, 11:35 AM

Put your FF back to 80 and disable FF learning. You're continuing to underboost up top and its driving FF up.



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