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How modified am I?
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Default 06-10-2022, 10:52 AM

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How modified am I?
Well if you are like the majority of Hyundai/Kia FWD 1.6-2.5 owners.

Beyond bolt-on parts and modified stock turbo, not much.


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Default 06-10-2022, 10:55 AM

So your in that group too so why get all sarcastic with people when your fastest time is slower than a stock Elantra N?
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Default 06-10-2022, 11:17 AM

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So your in that group too so why get all sarcastic with people when your fastest time is slower than a stock Elantra N?
I can assure you it's much faster than the times I have posted.

Just hold your horses, I am working on several things here.


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Default 06-11-2022, 07:50 PM

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Attached is log for map zero pull as tCizzler was saying the car has a timing scale that seems to be very consistent, I did a few pulls and they where all within 4 or 5 percent of each other so instead of posting all of them I'm just going to attach the longest one. Forgot to add car is on 93 with 3.5 gallons of a pretty regularly tested e85 site that has 80%-91% ethanol.
I just noticed your comment, I wasn't notified because it wasn't quoted. But yes, that's pretty consistent with just about every log I've seen from a VN.

And your avatar name. Are you from Pgh? Or is your car actually black and gold?
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Default 06-12-2022, 07:32 AM

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hello all, wanted to see if someone can check out my logs. Genesis g70 3.3t. Currently running HKS plugs gapped to .022 and intakes on 93 Map 2. Car felt great and ready to run e-30. Thanks
Looks great to me, go for it.
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Default 06-12-2022, 07:33 AM

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Hey Terry,

Here's a better log.

Attachment 106672

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I can't remember if you had an issue, but the log itself seems fine to me.
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Default 06-12-2022, 12:15 PM

I didn't have any issues..just wanted to make sure things looked okay.

Thanks for taking a look!
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Default 06-12-2022, 06:09 PM

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I just noticed your comment, I wasn't notified because it wasn't quoted. But yes, that's pretty consistent with just about every log I've seen from a VN.

And your avatar name. Are you from Pgh? Or is your car actually black and gold?
Don't know what Pgh is but it is actually black and gold
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Default 06-12-2022, 07:21 PM

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Don't know what Pgh is but it is actually black and gold
Pgh is Pittsburgh, PA. Black and gold team colors. I though maybe you were local to me. But definitely not if you were unaware.
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Default 06-13-2022, 07:48 AM

I'm not a stealers fan at all I'm down in Baltimore though so not too far away
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Default 06-14-2022, 05:27 PM

New guy here and I have not been able to figure out how to upload the graph most commonly seen here but was hoping I could get a read of the attached CSV file, please.

Map 1, 91 (non-ethanol) Oct fuel, Denso plugs gapped to .022, no other mods.
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Default 06-15-2022, 07:23 AM

Good call, graphs are almost useless, always upload the csv. As far as the log it looks normal for 91 oct and that heat. Timing deviations are a little high but nothing to be too concerned about. Stay Map1 and you'll be fine.
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Default 06-15-2022, 07:26 AM

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Good call, graphs are almost useless, always upload the csv. As far as the log it looks normal for 91 oct and that heat. Timing deviations are a little high but nothing to be too concerned about. Stay Map1 and you'll be fine.
Thanks for the input. I just mixed in 5 gal of E-85 (I'm waiting for my Fuel-it analyzer to show up so I can install it).

How long does it take for that E-85 to mix with fuel and hit my rails? I'd like to get a comparison pull/log.
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Default 06-15-2022, 08:39 AM

No more than 5 min of driving, usually just a few miles and things settle down.
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Default 06-15-2022, 11:42 AM

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No more than 5 min of driving, usually just a few miles and things settle down.
If I may trouble you for one more look.

This is a log w/ 5 gallons of E85.

I guess what I would like to find out is whether or if I should continue to put in E85 or if the timing pulls up top didn't improve.
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Default 06-15-2022, 12:23 PM

Timing is a bit better but remember these ECU's use adaptive tuning. That means it will take about a day or two of regular driving to "Adapt" to the better fuel and Octane before you see true results. Keep what you got and I assure you it will get even better.
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Default 06-15-2022, 01:44 PM

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Timing is a bit better but remember these ECU's use adaptive tuning. That means it will take about a day or two of regular driving to "Adapt" to the better fuel and Octane before you see true results. Keep what you got and I assure you it will get even better.
So, I feel like an idiot. So I did the installation (plugs, jb4, etc). The plugs and the OBDii wire run through the firewall kicked my ass. I'm not at all proud to say it took me all-in at least 6 hours (granted I would take breaks...lost a 10mm socket LITERALLY within the first 30 seconds. Cracking open the first coil pack...no bull****). But I digress.

Anyway, I take the car out for a couple of pulls and I am thinking to myself...this thing feels no different, and now it makes sense why the next day it DID feel different.

Thanks again for your time and input.
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Default E20 Log - 06-16-2022, 06:19 AM

Hey Terry,

There seems to be a fair amount of timing pulled on this run. Is that normal for the amount of ethanol content?

Thanks for any help!

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Default 06-22-2022, 09:37 AM

Can someone tell me what's going on when my LOZiC ECU decides to close the throttle mid pull?

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Can someone tell me what's going on when my LOZiC ECU decides to close the throttle mid pull?

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Fuel pressure tanked. Log map6 with boost set to 0psi across the board, option 0 off, and option 5 off.
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Default 06-22-2022, 06:29 PM

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Fuel pressure tanked. Log map6 with boost set to 0psi across the board, option 0 off, and option 5 off.
Should I set it to flat fuel and Duty also? Any suggestions for boost saftey and FF/Watergate adaptation? Or any other settings I should check or change?

EDIT: hey Terry, i found a map 6 log from the other day, see attached.
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Default E30 Woes - 06-24-2022, 05:54 AM

Hey guys,

So I've discovered(i think) that just because you have e30 doesn't mean it can handle map 3 lol. It would seem low ethanol % e85 has trash octane and it is worse than running 93 w/ booster. I've been slowing adding e85 and it's been progressively worse and is pulling timing. Before I had a tank of shell 93 with boostane with about 100-105 octane. Does this log seem like evidence of that? When the car shifted to 4th it fell flat on its face lol.

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Default 06-24-2022, 09:02 AM

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Should I set it to flat fuel and Duty also? Any suggestions for boost saftey and FF/Watergate adaptation? Or any other settings I should check or change?

EDIT: hey Terry, i found a map 6 log from the other day, see attached.
It's better with JB4 EWG active. Enable fuel control also so we can evaluate that.


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Hey guys,

So I've discovered(i think) that just because you have e30 doesn't mean it can handle map 3 lol. It would seem low ethanol % e85 has trash octane and it is worse than running 93 w/ booster. I've been slowing adding e85 and it's been progressively worse and is pulling timing. Before I had a tank of shell 93 with boostane with about 100-105 octane. Does this log seem like evidence of that? When the car shifted to 4th it fell flat on its face lol.

Thanks,

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This looks like some sort of boost issue post shift, like the BOV sticking partially open or something.
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