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Hello...new log on on beta 8. I could not find setting for "boost by gear" so i'm running my current map 6 with tapered boost up to +6. The Valet (Map8) seems to work flawlessly. I'm on 91 octane w/cbe and drop in filter.
It's called "max boost 1st" in the interface, depending on the version.


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I think I have read about this several on the Facebook groups, there might be a couple of threads here too. Pops up randomly, but I know it happens on third party intakes. I actually had this my self but only once at WOT... sent the car to limp mode but clearing it out put me back to normal. Update the fw and let us know if it comes back.


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Default 03-02-2020, 09:44 AM

Running the new beta 8, the logs I ran in Map 6 and in Eco look great (you said you didn't need anymore logs, but just wanted to mention that), and I had a few comments.

1. Switching the maps with the drive modes is great. How will that work in the stable version? i.e. will we be able to set the maps we want with Sport and Sport+ vs. Standard vs. Eco vs. Snow? I only say this because it would be nice to have a low map as your base, lets say a Map 1 for Standard and Snow, and the Map 6 for Sport and Sport plus, while retaining the Valet for cruising in Eco, but if I wanted to switch my base map to Map 8 for valet (I am letting my car get valeted or my nephew drive it for example), I would not want the drive mode switch to put it back into Map 6. Maybe set some type of overrides based on the base map selected?

2.Can we get a lower 2.5 or 3psi map for RedSports as an option (see above comment)? I am not necessarily a fan of the 4 psi map once you are high in the RPM range near redline, due to turbo spooling and the potential issues with the Optical sensor registering an overspeed. (my Map 6, while it goes up to 4.5 between 4000-5000, it tapers down faster closer to redline). If not maybe can you set one of the flat fixed maps to taper off sooner (mapped them so I can see there is a slight taper up and down)?

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Default 03-02-2020, 01:33 PM

On the mode based switching we have to evaluate it still. For example on our car we've got snow, eco, comfort, and sport. I think the most practical thing to do is to setup a field within the app where you can define what map to run in sport. Snow may have other driving side effects so probably not practical for this but we could also map that out.

Which models have sport+? Just RS?


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On the mode based switching we have to evaluate it still. For example on our car we've got snow, eco, comfort, and sport. I think the most practical thing to do is to setup a field within the app where you can define what map to run in sport. Snow may have other driving side effects so probably not practical for this but we could also map that out.

Which models have sport+? Just RS?
I know my RedSport has the Sport+, and maybe the Regular Silver Sport might also? I totally blanked on the Personal, which a lot of people use.


Setting up for each mode would be ideal, but you still would lose the usefulness of putting it into a global "Valet" mode (that would override all other maps and modes), if they can just switch it back to a Map 6, let's say, using the Mode selector. Just food for thought.
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Default 03-02-2020, 02:35 PM

I put the "drive mode" under ign cyl6 in the JB4 app, let me know what your value is on the RS for sport+ and sport.


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Default 03-02-2020, 04:23 PM

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I put the "drive mode" under ign cyl6 in the JB4 app, let me know what your value is on the RS for sport+ and sport.
Standard is 0.0
Sport and sport+ are 3.2
Eco is 1.6
Snow is 4.8
I adjusted all the engine parameters in personal and they all match these numbers above ( standard 0, sport 3.2, eco 1.6, and snow 4.8) so it looks like it is seeing the engine setting not necessarily the drive mode. I hope this helps.
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Standard is 0.0
Sport and sport+ are 3.2
Eco is 1.6
Snow is 4.8
I adjusted all the engine parameters in personal and they all match these numbers above ( standard 0, sport 3.2, eco 1.6, and snow 4.8) so it looks like it is seeing the engine setting not necessarily the drive mode. I hope this helps.
Interesting that sport and sport+ are the same... Since we're using that number to identify them that prevents us from making sport+ a separate map.

Does anyone know what snow mode actually does if selected? I couldn't tell lol.


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Any updates when the EWG will be in stuck/off back order?
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We're working on a small batch and will update the EWG thread when we have them.


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Default 03-03-2020, 04:30 AM

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Does anyone know what snow mode actually does if selected? I couldn't tell lol.
According to the press kit:

"In Snow mode, the engine automatically lowers its output for wet or icy conditions. The transmission adjusts, so to use a higher gear and lower torque and power output. This helps prevent wheel spin on slippery roads. In Eco mode, the steering force is lighter, while the engine automatically lowers output for economy driving. Throttle response is adjusted and the transmission not as immediate as in other modes. Transmission shift points have been changed for maximum economy."

Doesn't really say much, does it?

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Default 03-03-2020, 07:48 AM

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Interesting that sport and sport+ are the same... Since we're using that number to identify them that prevents us from making sport+ a separate map.
Understood.
It makes me think there is some other number that the switch actually transmits/inputs to control other things such as steering(the steering input increases from Standard to Sport and then again to Sport+), and suspension, and the rear braking, in addition to the engine and transmission feel. This number you found and are tracking appears to be the engine transmission setting (as verified by going and staying in personal mode), and not changing the mode, but actually changing the engine settings in that mode and verifying the numbers I gave you above.

Honestly I am cool with Sport and Sport+ being the same. Having the option to set maps for the different modes (S and S+, Standard, Eco, and Snow) would still be very awesome.

Thanks again! I know I asked for this as a feature like over 2 years ago! LOL

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What is the issue exactly? And does it come up on a lower map like map1 or map2?
had codes P0235, P3702, P4100, and P0000. Cleared them and then the car started running odd. Disconnect JB4 completely and reinstalled it later. everything ran fine up until i started getting an error message "Setting Alert Possible user adjustment settings corruption. would you like to upload your last saved settings?"

now user adjustment is blank and i cant find where to enable Fuel Wires.
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had codes P0235, P3702, P4100, and P0000. Cleared them and then the car started running odd. Disconnect JB4 completely and reinstalled it later. everything ran fine up until i started getting an error message "Setting Alert Possible user adjustment settings corruption. would you like to upload your last saved settings?"

now user adjustment is blank and i cant find where to enable Fuel Wires.
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According to the press kit:

"In Snow mode, the engine automatically lowers its output for wet or icy conditions. The transmission adjusts, so to use a higher gear and lower torque and power output. This helps prevent wheel spin on slippery roads. In Eco mode, the steering force is lighter, while the engine automatically lowers output for economy driving. Throttle response is adjusted and the transmission not as immediate as in other modes. Transmission shift points have been changed for maximum economy."

Doesn't really say much, does it?

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OK let's see some datalogs in SNOW mode to confirm how it works. Most likely, it's not going to be a good option to run a map under. So likely we're looking at ECO forced to VALET, comfort for your selected map, and sport/sport+ for a "hot" map setup in the app.


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OK let's see some datalogs in SNOW mode to confirm how it works. Most likely, it's not going to be a good option to run a map under. So likely we're looking at ECO forced to VALET, comfort for your selected map, and sport/sport+ for a "hot" map setup in the app.
Do you want logs in Map 0, or some with the JB4 doing its thing?

I'll see if I can rip some off for you later today.

I'm sure that everybody will have an opinion, but it would seem perfect to me if ECO = Valet, Normal = Map 0, Sport = Map 2, and Sport+ = Map 6 or something like that. But I realize that a scheme like that wont work because the Red Sports and non-Reds need completely different boost maps... Not sure how you're going to crack this one, Bro'

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Default Snow Mode logs - 03-04-2020, 05:58 AM

I ripped off a few quick ones in "snow" mode for you on the way to work (Map 0).

There should be a normal acceleration from stop, a "hard" (for snow mode, anyway) acceleration from stop, a couple of 3rd gear pulls, and (I think) a third rolling pull with gear changes.

If these aren't what you want, please let me know and I'll try to capture what you're after later today.

Cheers!

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I didn't realiz there was a separate thread for the EWG updates, let me go find that now


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I dont see it in this subsection, where is it? I assumed there wasn't 1 yet since its not ready for prime time.


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I ripped off a few quick ones in "snow" mode for you on the way to work (Map 0).

There should be a normal acceleration from stop, a "hard" (for snow mode, anyway) acceleration from stop, a couple of 3rd gear pulls, and (I think) a third rolling pull with gear changes.

If these aren't what you want, please let me know and I'll try to capture what you're after later today.

Cheers!

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Perfect, thanks!


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I'm running firmware 8 and I'm noticing in my logs, and the logs that GaryM just posted, that the fuel enrichment stays at 0, even when afrs dip below 12.5. It looks like the fuel wires are on (FUD=1, I think) but nothing is registering in the logs. I looked back at some of the earlier firmware 8 logs posted here and it looks like the fuel wires are working fine, only difference on those is FUD shows "0_ON" instead of "1". Did anything change with how you turn on the fuel wires in v8? I'm on iOS if that matters.


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Attach the log lets see why!


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Default 03-05-2020, 09:12 AM

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Attach the log lets see why!
Here's one using v8 (Map 3, Sport Plus). Looks like the fuel enrichment does kick in when afr's are under 12. I thought it was set to kick in at 12.5 in v7, did it change for v8? Everything look ok in the log?

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