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Default 01-26-2015, 09:28 PM

Looking forward to this option for the pneumatic wastegate


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Default 01-27-2015, 12:42 AM

As always happy to test new stuff. However no working can flaps in my car any more


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Default 01-27-2015, 05:23 PM

Terry, any word on if this will work on cars w/o navigation or enhanced BT? Without nav, that button on the steering wheel does nothing.
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Default 01-27-2015, 06:38 PM

CAN Flap? Are you speaking about exhaust flaps like on a 550? I didn't know there were any on a 2012 535. What did I miss?
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Default 01-27-2015, 07:07 PM

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Terry, any word on if this will work on cars w/o navigation or enhanced BT? Without nav, that button on the steering wheel does nothing.
I hope so! Try it and let me know!

I'm also looking in to other button ideas.


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Default 01-27-2015, 07:31 PM

The firmware has been working well so I added it to the first post to expand testing.

Firmware Updates:
N55_FSERIES_EWG_2_9A: Added CAN Flap per DEMO video
N55_FSERIES_8_12: Added CAN Flap per DEMO video


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Default 01-28-2015, 05:34 AM

Hey all,

Here is my video of it.

Not 100% sure if I enabled the right mode. I long-pressed the voice button and then pressed it again twice (to enable mode 2).



I think it feels a bit more free-er? Rev's a bit more easily when not gunning it, which is nice.
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Default 01-28-2015, 08:40 AM

I just updated to the latest firmware (8_12) and the CAN flap feature works really well.
Thanks you Terry for keeping us pneumatic guys in the update loop!

quick question: Does the JB4 CAN flap setting retain the last input or will it always reset to the default after the power is cycled off/on?


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Default 01-28-2015, 08:35 PM

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I just updated to the latest firmware (8_12) and the CAN flap feature works really well.
Thanks you Terry for keeping us pneumatic guys in the update loop!

quick question: Does the JB4 CAN flap setting retain the last input or will it always reset to the default after the power is cycled off/on?
Nice! It retains it's setting. In the interface it's stored under the field cps1500. 0 is OEM operation, 1 is always open, and 2 is always closed (except for WOT).


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Default 01-28-2015, 08:46 PM

Just as a general comment I've had a couple customers email in and ask about the processor speed of the JB4 system. It was an odd question so I looked around and found yet another company is trying to push an analog only system for twice the price of a JB4. This time they are making wild claims like the JB4 is too slow to tune properly, their system is smoother, etc. Complete nonsense. I'm going to jump on a soapbox for a moment.

Just for the record, with the JB4 we're only using a fraction of the processing power and memory available. And that includes running a full CANbus system & RS232 communications system that none of these other systems include. All analog sensor signals are run at 10-bit @ 300hz which exceeds the sensors resolution. We could run it at 1000hz if we wanted with plenty of power to spare. We also include controls for the wastegate and fuel mass that the other systems don't. These other analog only systems can't change maps in dash, can't limit boost in 1st and 2nd gear, can't monitor AFR, timing, throttle, can't offer any meaningful safety systems, can't autotune, can't read/delete codes, can't run the exhaust flapper, etc, etc, etc. They can't even read the gas pedal position to transition in boost smoothly as a function of pedal input.

They are effectively like our Stage1 only instead of recognizing and planning for the limitations of an analog only system and tuning it safely within its parameters, like adding 3psi or 4psi over stock as we do with Stage1, they crank boost up higher than should be with an analog only system and hype up their marketing to try to sell them. These other piggybacks can't even produce a simple datalog. It's a bit sad to read how they pray on uninformed customers with an inferior product for twice the price.

Anyway, back off my soap-box. If anyone emails asking about processor speed I'll refer them to this post.


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Default 01-29-2015, 08:07 AM

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CAN Flap? Are you speaking about exhaust flaps like on a 550? I didn't know there were any on a 2012 535. What did I miss?
This was my thought, also. Do the F10 535i cars (mine is a 2011) have CAN flaps? I know my 335 cars did, and my E60 535i also had it, but never thought about it with my F10 535i.

I grabbed the updated F series hex (non EWG), I guess I will give it a try. The video is a little confusing on how to change settings with the phone button, I assume it's the same as map changing...hold it for a few seconds (which will also put it in mode 0 default), then press again once or twice to get it to mode 1 (always open) or mode 2 (always closed except under WOT).

Can anyone confirm the F10 535 cars have CAN flaps?

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Default 01-29-2015, 08:43 AM

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535i has canflap in one of its 2 exhaust tailpipes.

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Default 01-29-2015, 08:45 AM

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Nice! It retains it's setting. In the interface it's stored under the field cps1500. 0 is OEM operation, 1 is always open, and 2 is always closed (except for WOT).
Terry - canflap control works fine on an UK m135i. Thanks, BP.


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Default 01-29-2015, 09:36 AM

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Force fed,

535i has canflap in one of its 2 exhaust tailpipes.

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Thanks for info, Bee Pee!
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Default 01-29-2015, 01:47 PM

Hey T,

Do you have this done yet for the f30 ISO firmware yet?. Also how would this work for the manual tranny guys?
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Default 01-29-2015, 02:36 PM

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Nice! It retains it's setting. In the interface it's stored under the field cps1500. 0 is OEM operation, 1 is always open, and 2 is always closed (except for WOT).
Terry, I've found a few occasions where the flap returns to normal operation (I.e closed) when it has been in mode 2 and should have stayed open.
It did it first thing this morning during start up, I selected mode 2 with the ignition turned on and heard the flap open. I then started the car and checked that both pipes were flowing, they were. Before the end of the cold start cycle I heard the flap actuator and when I checked the left pipe had stopped flowing. I toggled back through to mode 2 again and it re-opened.

The second time it happened was when I switched between driving modes, I was in eco -pro and selected mode 2 to open the left pipe up, the exhaust went all bassy so I knew it had opened. Later on I switched to comfort mode and the exhaust seemed to quieten up.
I toggled to mode 3 closed and the exhaust sounder the same, when I went back to mode 2 it got all bassy and deep again so obviously opened up?
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Default 01-29-2015, 02:48 PM

Hmm could be a bug. Email in and I can help you sort it out. Be sure to also let me know the software version being used.


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Default 02-03-2015, 07:38 AM

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Force fed,

535i has canflap in one of its 2 exhaust tailpipes.

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The F10 535 does not have the CAN flap.


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Default 02-03-2015, 07:47 AM

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Looking forward to this option for the pneumatic wastegate
Terry AFAIK the flap opens when I select sport mode, if I use this feature the flap will open the same way?
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Hi,

I see the first post have been updated with alternative firmwares.
However, I'm confused - which alternative do I chose for my stock pneumatic M135i, 8_10 or 8_12b? - i.e. what's a trans flash and why do I want to remove it?


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Default 02-04-2015, 08:48 AM

Both versions of FW are the same bar the can flap control...
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Default help - 02-04-2015, 10:04 AM

Hi Terry,

I know Payam emailed you yesterday on this... hoping we can find a solution. After trying all day he could not find a way to get to the EWG to get my car boosting properly. After checking around it seems like no one has done a new 2015 535i w/ N55 and JB4 before and the EWG is totally in access-able.

Ive got so much done to the car now, meth kit, etc. I don't want to call it quits and go back. Is there any way to splice into the EWG wires some where else? Any possible other solution?

I imagine there's going to be more and more people in my situation soon, its hard to believe I am the first. But if I am there must be some type of solution we can come up with.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks a ton.

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Default N55 F10 JB4 Install video yet? - 02-05-2015, 06:47 AM

I am only finding the n54 n55 f30 stage1... I cant find install for a 2011+ F10 on the JB4. The other vids I see make the install on other models a nightmare, I read, went thru printed, studied and still dont want to install my JB4 on my 2013 535i.
I read thru about 24 pages of this thread and figured I would just ask if anything has been updated from what I can find.
Just got my kit 2 days ago and have their BMS intake comming later today.

Anyway, any simplified F10 Specific installs for JB4?
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Default 02-05-2015, 07:05 AM

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I am only finding the n54 n55 f30 stage1... I cant find install for a 2011+ F10 on the JB4. The other vids I see make the install on other models a nightmare, I read, went thru printed, studied and still dont want to install my JB4 on my 2013 535i.
I read thru about 24 pages of this thread and figured I would just ask if anything has been updated from what I can find.
Just got my kit 2 days ago and have their BMS intake comming later today.

Anyway, any simplified F10 Specific installs for JB4?
Go back to the first post of this thread. There is an install link underneath the videos and user adjustment image. Here's a link directly to the PDF just in case you don't see what I'm referencing- http://www.n54tech.com/forums/attach...7&d=1402085419


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Default 02-05-2015, 07:33 AM

I saw that one, I was looking for a good video. the other vid I saw was different application. It looks like its a 10 minute job, but, Ive learned that I know nothing on these cars, so just looking for something to keep me from screwin the pooch!

thank you for the response
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