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Default NGK 95770 Sold Out - 04-23-2019, 03:17 AM

Whatís going on with NGK 95770 being sold out everywhere?


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Default 04-23-2019, 07:22 AM

Also waiting for these... I cant recall if it was bimmerworld or another vendor that was estimating end of april, but here we are and...
with fbo and hybrids wouldnt you want to go 2 steps colder? n20 or s55 plugs? I havent pulled that trigger since im fbo on stockers.


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Default 04-23-2019, 08:01 AM

BMS still has the 95770s in stock and they are going for 11 bucks a piece
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Default 04-23-2019, 08:11 AM

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BMS still has the 95770s in stock and they are going for 11 bucks a piece
Where are you seeing that? Im looking at their website now and I'm seeing 5992 (now 95770) as out of stock, oem bosch and 97506 available.


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Default 04-23-2019, 09:01 AM

NGK has a worldwide back order on these with no ETA. You won't get them anywhere unfortunately.

The NGK 97506 is a great alternative, I would go with those over OEM Bosch IMO.
We have plenty of both in stock though!

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Default 04-23-2019, 09:33 AM

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Where are you seeing that? Im looking at their website now and I'm seeing 5992 (now 95770) as out of stock, oem bosch and 97506 available.
I checked yesterday and they were still in stock. I guess they sold out.
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Default 04-23-2019, 10:41 AM

bummer - im in the exact same boat. I wanted to get it ordered and change coils/plugs this weekend.


Im interested in the 97506 VS 95770 though. What makes the 97506 a good alternative?

I see that theyre 2 steps colder and have slightly different dimensions. They dont induce a sketchy idle or other unwanted behavior, right?


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bummer - im in the exact same boat. I wanted to get it ordered and change coils/plugs this weekend.


Im interested in the 97506 VS 95770 though. What makes the 97506 a good alternative?

I see that theyre 2 steps colder and have slightly different dimensions. They dont induce a sketchy idle or other unwanted behavior, right?


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I haven't had any of those issues stated above. When going from the 95770 to 97506 I never had a misfire issue with 700+whp on my car. I recommend that to everyone with a .020-0.22" gap.


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Default 04-23-2019, 12:55 PM

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NGK has a worldwide back order on these with no ETA. You won't get them anywhere unfortunately.

The NGK 97506 is a great alternative, I would go with those over OEM Bosch IMO.
We have plenty of both in stock though!

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bummer - im in the exact same boat. I wanted to get it ordered and change coils/plugs this weekend.


Im interested in the 97506 VS 95770 though. What makes the 97506 a good alternative?

I see that theyre 2 steps colder and have slightly different dimensions. They dont induce a sketchy idle or other unwanted behavior, right?


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Idles PERFECT. I have never had an idle issue though with stock, 1, or 2 step colder.
No ill behavior either.
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Idles PERFECT. I have never had an idle issue though with stock, 1, or 2 step colder.
No ill behavior either.
Good to know about the idle behavior. Besides the decreased service interval, I think the less thorough burn is my concern. Rich mixture wearing out 02's, and I already have a little smoke cloud behind me in traffic But I think it's a no brainer if you're anything over stock turbos.

Can anyone comment on running smaller gap to keep coil voltage in check? Im concerned about my MSD80 mosfets going out


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Good to know about the idle behavior. Besides the decreased service interval, I think the less thorough burn is my concern. Rich mixture wearing out 02's, and I already have a little smoke cloud behind me in traffic But I think it's a no brainer if you're anything over stock turbos.

Can anyone comment on running smaller gap to keep coil voltage in check? Im concerned about my MSD80 mosfets going out
Are you saying the 97506 plugs have reduced life and/or dont burn as well as the 95770s?
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Are you saying the 97506 plugs have reduced life and/or dont burn as well as the 95770s?
Iím not well enough researched to say for sure. But Iíve been told that 95770 will need to be replaced more frequently than stock, someone here said difference between 97506 and 95770 isnít as big a deal. Bimmerworld has a page on this


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Someone must have beat me to it, sold out now


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What about ebay?

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Default 04-24-2019, 09:53 AM

How would the Ngk 97506 plugs work in fall winter months,since they are 1 step cooler then ngk 95770?also would running the 97506 over 95770 benefit cars with about 600rwhp?or are these plugs more for 700plus hp cars.


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How would the Ngk 97506 plugs work in fall winter months,since they are 1 step cooler then ngk 95770?also would running the 97506 over 95770 benefit cars with about 600rwhp?or are these plugs more for 700plus hp cars.
I run these at 600whp with no issues. Even if i turn boost down to about 550, no issues. Winter ? Im in SoCal so it hits low 40s high 30s at its coldest.
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I run these at 600whp with no issues. Even if i turn boost down to about 550, no issues. Winter ? Im in SoCal so it hits low 40s high 30s at its coldest.
on your and payam's advice, i just bought them -my fingers are crossed they work well on lower powered cars too

who ever heard of a company running out of spark plugs? lol
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on your and payam's advice, i just bought them -my fingers are crossed they work well on lower powered cars too

who ever heard of a company running out of spark plugs? lol
I think NGK decided there werent enough sales to continue production. I cant find what car these were originally intended for. Our platform came out 10+ years ago, they probably figure well just get 97506 if we dont want oem. Shame because 95770 seemed to suit fbo pretty well.


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National back order, use the 2step colder instead. Which are the same heat range used on the N20 motors. Better plug anyway and not much more.


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I'll have my set of 95770s when I get off of work. Had auto zone look up the part number and send to store. Under 80 dollars...
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I'll have my set of 95770s when I get off of work. Had auto zone look up the part number and send to store. Under 80 dollars...
They probably had a few left in stock, you got lucky!


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Default 05-03-2019, 03:22 PM

Just installed a set of NGK-97506 along with a set of new coils. Runs Great!! Gapped them in at .020" to start and seems to be perfect for my setup.
I was concerned about cold start misfires being 2 steps colder but not a sign of missing this morning at 50F.


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