N54Tech.com - International Turbo Racing Discussion
(#1)
Old
E92_335is E92_335is is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 45
Join Date: Nov 2017
Car: 2011 bmw 335is coupe
Default Inlets on 335is. - 10-12-2019, 01:00 AM

Hey guys! I am back into the n54 world😈 i was driving a 740li for a while after i sold my silver 335is. A few feeks ago, i purchased a lemans blue on peanut butter 335is coupe! I am very happy to be back! So lets get to modding haha!
I already have the exhaust setup as i removed it from my old car, and i just purchased the new bms e series race intercooler and i kept my jb4 as well. Now, i think i want to do inlets. I had a mr.5 intake before and i just dont want to get rid of it because it looks the most stock.. i know, i know, i have DCI sitting in my garage but it Doesnt look original in my engine bay. Im trying to make everything as lowkey as possible.. so, which inlets would fit best with my stock airbox? Ive read that the RB ones fit and some guys had no issues putting it in and connecting it to their stock airbox. But i noticed on burgertuning.com, they have n54 stock location inlets for cheap!!! So, will they fit perfectly on the stock airbox as the guys claimed with the RB? Im ready to make my purchase, just dont know what to get. I have a race coming up, i have to beat a dinan s3 big turbo m235i. They say crank is 445hp, will you guys let me know what i need to walk him like a puppy? Hes n55, im n54, i can get the fuel pump too for e85, not a big deal for me. Just have to win this race lol


Best Regards,
Andrew

2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT (sold)
2012 740li luxury - (sold)
2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT Lemans Blue Metallic
Reply With Quote
(#2)
Old
E92_335is E92_335is is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 45
Join Date: Nov 2017
Car: 2011 bmw 335is coupe
Default 10-13-2019, 07:42 PM

Bump


Best Regards,
Andrew

2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT (sold)
2012 740li luxury - (sold)
2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT Lemans Blue Metallic
Reply With Quote
(#3)
Old
THE BEAST THE BEAST is offline
Legend
 
Posts: 1,062
Join Date: Apr 2016
Car: 2008 E93
Default 10-14-2019, 09:05 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by E92_335is
Hey guys! I am back into the n54 world�� i was driving a 740li for a while after i sold my silver 335is. A few feeks ago, i purchased a lemans blue on peanut butter 335is coupe! I am very happy to be back! So lets get to modding haha!
I already have the exhaust setup as i removed it from my old car, and i just purchased the new bms e series race intercooler and i kept my jb4 as well. Now, i think i want to do inlets. I had a mr.5 intake before and i just dont want to get rid of it because it looks the most stock.. i know, i know, i have DCI sitting in my garage but it Doesnt look original in my engine bay. Im trying to make everything as lowkey as possible.. so, which inlets would fit best with my stock airbox? Ive read that the RB ones fit and some guys had no issues putting it in and connecting it to their stock airbox. But i noticed on burgertuning.com, they have n54 stock location inlets for cheap!!! So, will they fit perfectly on the stock airbox as the guys claimed with the RB? Im ready to make my purchase, just dont know what to get. I have a race coming up, i have to beat a dinan s3 big turbo m235i. They say crank is 445hp, will you guys let me know what i need to walk him like a puppy? Hes n55, im n54, i can get the fuel pump too for e85, not a big deal for me. Just have to win this race lol
How does a BIG turbo only make ~375~ whp ?
Reply With Quote
(#4)
Old
moss's Avatar
moss moss is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 28
Join Date: Feb 2016
Car: 2012 335iS
Default 10-15-2019, 07:01 AM

Rb inlets fit just fine for me. I’ve had them for 6 years with no issues.
Reply With Quote
(#5)
Old
E92_335is E92_335is is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 45
Join Date: Nov 2017
Car: 2011 bmw 335is coupe
Default 10-15-2019, 11:21 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by THE BEAST
How does a BIG turbo only make ~375~ whp ?
Dinan🤣


Best Regards,
Andrew

2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT (sold)
2012 740li luxury - (sold)
2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT Lemans Blue Metallic
Reply With Quote
(#6)
Old
E92_335is E92_335is is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 45
Join Date: Nov 2017
Car: 2011 bmw 335is coupe
Default 10-15-2019, 11:22 AM

The bms was $100 cheaper.. I purchased them from burgertuning.com.
Will let you guys know how they fit!


Best Regards,
Andrew

2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT (sold)
2012 740li luxury - (sold)
2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT Lemans Blue Metallic
Reply With Quote
(#7)
Old
Payam @ BMS's Avatar
Payam @ BMS Payam @ BMS is offline
Super Moderator
 
Posts: 5,279
Join Date: Oct 2013
Car: e90 335i
Default 10-15-2019, 01:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by E92_335is
The bms was $100 cheaper.. I purchased them from burgertuning.com.
Will let you guys know how they fit!
They fit perfect, We've sold over 500 already.


Burger Motorsports
Home of the Worlds fastest N20s, N54s, N55s, S55s, N63s, and S63s!

It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
Reply With Quote
(#8)
Old
Rob@RBTurbo's Avatar
Rob@RBTurbo Rob@RBTurbo is online now
Stalker
 
Posts: 3,958
Join Date: Feb 2009
Car: 335I
Default 10-15-2019, 04:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Payam @ BMS
They fit perfect, We've sold over 500 already.
500 sets in the past year?! Damn that is impressive.

We get the question a lot, "Why are your inlets $75-100 more than others?"

The large answer: We spend a lot on the quality additions to the Silicone tubes, you can see the attached pictures for a visual comparison representation (CNC'd additions, high quality extended tail Stainless clamps, PNP with OE diverter Gray fittings, PNP with OE PTC Heater, etc). On top of this we do some tailoring and cleanup on some of the hosing, to meet our standards, which takes time. Lastly we are not a large volume seller, we are more of a boutique seller who puts the last mile efforts in to deliver what we believe is a superior product.

The other answer prior to BMS: They fit very very well. I personally designed the samples which took days, and worked with our vendor to get them tooled to our liking which took literally weeks to months in back and forths. Tons and time and money during this developmental process to get the best fitting and designed silicone on the market, of which was supposed to be our own and for no one else indefinitely (it was that way for a good number of years). However staring high volume seller revenue in the face sometimes a vendor will buckle on their word, business is business.

Ultimately fitment between BMS and RB should be about spot-on, as stated BMS worked with our vendor to use our RB tooling to make their inlet products- and being the high volume seller that they are this makes sense and the vendor in question agreed. If we used the same hardware and matched the price there is no doubt maintain a similar profit margin, but we have no desire to do as such as we prefer being more of a Boutique focusing on going the extra mile. It is clear the cheapest that can be found is the stuff to get for many, however once again that simply is not our business model. In short this product helps our product line thrive and we often package them together at substantial savings to the customer over MSRP, a thank you of sorts for the purchase of our RB N54 Turbo setups.

This post is not made out of bitterness, quite the contrary, we work with BMS regularly and have a good business relationship. Hell they have even supplied us some silicone a couple times when we ran out and were awaiting more! We really are not looking to sling tons of inlets however more so to support our own products, but keep in mind there are some good reasons why there is an RB surcharge for those looking for these units a la carte. Either way the BMS/RB silicone in itself is going to be the best fitment and design on the market, so buying one or the other will be in your best interest.

Thanks,
Rob
Attached Images
  


See www.rbturbo.com for N54 Twin Turbo Bolt-On upgrades, or contact directly 314-630-8950 rob.rbturbo@gmail.com for a price quote.

Last edited by Rob@RBTurbo; 10-15-2019 at 04:58 PM..
Reply With Quote
(#9)
Old
Bbelstad's Avatar
Bbelstad Bbelstad is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 33
Join Date: Sep 2019
Car: 08 E60 535i
Default 10-15-2019, 08:02 PM

So I guess it comes to budget really. I'd like to say, if I could afford to spend the extra cash, that I've got a more exclusive set of RB's. But in my case, BMS inlets are 100% as effective and safe for my stock turbos, therefore I choose BMS. BUT, when I by RB turbos, which I plan to do before year end, I'll be asking how much extra for a nice pretty set of their inlets would cost to ship with the snails.
PS~ Great honest explanation Mr Rob between the two brands. Now if all competitors could do the same when asked....


Hayden, Idaho

* 08' 535I.
* JB4 W/ Bluetooth Connect.
* Billy Boat 535I 3.5" *** back exhaust W/ resonator delete.
* BMS DCI.
* BMS Al PCV (Worth every one of the 4,000 pennies!!)

[/SIGPIC]
Reply With Quote
(#10)
Old
nissubaru nissubaru is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 121
Join Date: Jun 2017
Car: 2009 335i M-Sport
Default 10-16-2019, 09:08 AM

Upgraded LPFP, ethanol and inlets. Probably the BEF as well
Reply With Quote
(#11)
Old
E92_335is E92_335is is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 45
Join Date: Nov 2017
Car: 2011 bmw 335is coupe
Default 10-16-2019, 09:29 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by nissubaru
Upgraded LPFP, ethanol and inlets. Probably the BEF as well
Thats all i need? Im putting my bms race intercooler and my exhaust on soon as well as my jb4.. i need inlets and e85 on top of all that to be quicker?


Best Regards,
Andrew

2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT (sold)
2012 740li luxury - (sold)
2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT Lemans Blue Metallic
Reply With Quote
(#12)
Old
E92_335is E92_335is is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 45
Join Date: Nov 2017
Car: 2011 bmw 335is coupe
Default 10-16-2019, 09:30 AM

Some friends said just a jb4, intercooler, intake and exhaust enough lol, all i gotta do is to win a dinan s3 m235. I dont know how quick that is.. maybe 400 wheel? Less?


Best Regards,
Andrew

2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT (sold)
2012 740li luxury - (sold)
2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT Lemans Blue Metallic
Reply With Quote
(#13)
Old
nissubaru nissubaru is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 121
Join Date: Jun 2017
Car: 2009 335i M-Sport
Default 10-16-2019, 09:37 AM

Exhaust is pointless, d0wnp1p3z you'll need. JB4, ***, ethanol and an intake is really all you need to make the majority of the power but without the intercooler your temps will be too high. If you're talking ONE run then you could probably get away with sending it but if it's hot out then forget it.

Intercooler will lower your IATs which is important if you want to continue running at those power levels. E85 blends will always make more power than 93 and all you have to do is add a few gallons to the tank. I don't condone running E85 without a LPFP though. Just saying, you can get away without it but your car won't appreciate it.
Reply With Quote
(#14)
Old
E92_335is E92_335is is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 45
Join Date: Nov 2017
Car: 2011 bmw 335is coupe
Default 10-16-2019, 09:50 AM

Thats what i meant when i said exhaust lol.. whats did you mean between jb4 and ethanol.. im having a hard time guessing what a 3 letter word is lol


Best Regards,
Andrew

2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT (sold)
2012 740li luxury - (sold)
2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT Lemans Blue Metallic
Reply With Quote
(#15)
Old
E92_335is E92_335is is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 45
Join Date: Nov 2017
Car: 2011 bmw 335is coupe
Default 10-16-2019, 09:52 AM

Ill throw on my bms intercooler, inlets, exhaust, and tune. I ordered the walbro 450 and will diy a bucketless fuel pump. With the backend flash, and a 135is launch control software for my dct with some sticky tires, i should beat him both in a roll race and also a 1/8 mile.


Best Regards,
Andrew

2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT (sold)
2012 740li luxury - (sold)
2011 BMW 335is coupe DCT Lemans Blue Metallic
Reply With Quote
(#16)
Old
nissubaru nissubaru is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 121
Join Date: Jun 2017
Car: 2009 335i M-Sport
Default 10-16-2019, 11:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by E92_335is
Thats what i meant when i said exhaust lol.. whats did you mean between jb4 and ethanol.. im having a hard time guessing what a 3 letter word is lol
D0wnp1p3z, they block a ton of variations of that word including deee peee sss.

I would also suggest new spark plugs & gapping them correctly if you don't know when the plugs were replaced last.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
Copyright 2007 - 2019, N54tech.com