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Default 06-03-2011, 08:10 AM

Hi Terry I'm about to place my order for a jb4 finally from your UK reseller juiced tuning.

I would just like to confirm with you before I place my order than the 14 day money back offer still exists through the uk based company itself?

Also, any idea if they will have units with the latest software installed?

Would order direct from you however I live in Scotland and its been great weather here and I can't see it lasting long so next day shipping would be ideal.
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Default 06-03-2011, 08:24 AM

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Hi Terry I'm about to place my order for a jb4 finally from your UK reseller juiced tuning.

I would just like to confirm with you before I place my order than the 14 day money back offer still exists through the uk based company itself?

Also, any idea if they will have units with the latest software installed?

Would order direct from you however I live in Scotland and its been great weather here and I can't see it lasting long so next day shipping would be ideal.
Hi Mad, I also live in Scotland and got my JB4 last week from Juiced Tuning, believe me you won’t want a refund.
I would recommend that you also purchase the USB cable to update the firmware as its constantly evolving and the firmware that I had on mine was not the most up to date version.


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Default 06-03-2011, 09:47 AM

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Hi Terry I'm about to place my order for a jb4 finally from your UK reseller juiced tuning.

I would just like to confirm with you before I place my order than the 14 day money back offer still exists through the uk based company itself?

Also, any idea if they will have units with the latest software installed?

Would order direct from you however I live in Scotland and its been great weather here and I can't see it lasting long so next day shipping would be ideal.
Best to check with Neil directly. But they are our exclusive UK dealer and many customers have provided very positive reviews of their service. Each dealer is responsible for making their own policies with regards to pricing, returns, and service. Regardless of that we provide a 1 year warranty on the product from date of purchase. Details here:

http://www.burgertuning.com/terms.htm


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Default 06-03-2011, 09:49 AM

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Does the JB4 raise boost in the heat, it seems as im maxing Map2 out boost wise now that the weather is above 80*F always
No the target stays the same. At some point, it starts rolling the target down though. IIRC around 170 degrees IAT.


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Default 06-03-2011, 01:19 PM

Hi 5soko,
If it helps, I bought my jb3 off Neil just before the jb4 came out and he was very helpful, liaising with Terry to organise my upgrade. His after-sales service has also been excellent and I would imagine if you contacted him directly he'd have no problem honouring such a transaction.
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Default 06-03-2011, 01:38 PM

Neil at juiced up is indeed a good guy.

A few of us from E90post Uk board are buying some intercoolers from him and I have dealt with him before.

Neil did say very recently he would honour the money back guarantee as per BMS direct.
You won't have any trouble.

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Default 06-03-2011, 06:16 PM

Man this heat in the south is killing my boost levels 98* = 11 psi with map 2 and **'s..... HOT WEATHER I HATE YOU.




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Default 06-03-2011, 07:56 PM

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Man this heat in the south is killing my boost levels 98* = 11 psi with map 2 and **'s..... HOT WEATHER I HATE YOU.
Haha, third day of winter here in Australia and my car is loving it.

I know roles are reversed in your winter.

Run a line from your WWT with a nozzle and spray that IC with water. It really works.


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Default 06-03-2011, 08:02 PM

I got a map 2 log that will make you hate me. 15 psi, iat 95 during peak boost. Love that methanol/ETSfmic ; ) With boost under 15, a BMS drop in will help keep that torque consistent over their DCI for the summer. I love the dci for the dyno, the stock box is $ up to 14psi in the hot weather unless there is methanol involved.


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Default 06-03-2011, 08:15 PM

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I got a map 2 log that will make you hate me. 15 psi, iat 95 during peak boost. Love that methanol/ETSfmic ; ) With boost under 15, a BMS drop in will help keep that torque consistent over their DCI for the summer. I love the dci for the dyno, the stock box is $ up to 14psi in the hot weather unless there is methanol involved.
Hey mobilefitt, we have similar setups but you have meth. 15psi on map 2, nice.


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Default Nice map 2 log meth 50/50 - 06-03-2011, 08:53 PM

not the place for it really but....Running map 2 as I transition from meth concentration 70/30 to 50/50. I was interested to see the effects on timing at a conservative boost level now that I am bolted all the way to the mid *****. The car loves map 2. My mods are really dialed in well now that I am not maxing out my WPM. Map2 lag fix is 0. Spraying from 9psi-13psi (see it drop there for a second at the shift, should move it down to 11.5 on this map.)
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Nice looking log.


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Default 06-05-2011, 12:10 PM

Contemplating putting my order for a JB4+DCI in today, but I was just wondering if the JB4 has the SLD built in, or what the reason is if not.

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Contemplating putting my order for a JB4+DCI in today, but I was just wondering if the JB4 has the SLD built in, or what the reason is if not.

Thanks!
We left it out as most customers are under warranty and want to stay that way. But we offer a stand alone for $80, an soon will also have a stand alone CPS/SLD combo for $85, for those who want those features. They just slide in to the JB4 harness.


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Default 06-05-2011, 12:53 PM

Okay, I see that here.

Just wondering, how long does the ECU store metrics? I.e. How long would an above factory speed or boost setting be stored in the ECU, or does it simply store record high information for warranty claims?

If the latter were the case, wouldn't it be relatively easy to clear them like codes?

Furthermore, I was wondering about routing the USB cable to the passenger compartment, is there a guide readily available?
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Default 06-05-2011, 02:35 PM

Terry are any changes planned for map 5? What about an Autotunning Map with progressive meth? That would be great.
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Default 06-05-2011, 04:28 PM

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Okay, I see that here.

Just wondering, how long does the ECU store metrics? I.e. How long would an above factory speed or boost setting be stored in the ECU, or does it simply store record high information for warranty claims?

If the latter were the case, wouldn't it be relatively easy to clear them like codes?

Furthermore, I was wondering about routing the USB cable to the passenger compartment, is there a guide readily available?
Certain things like peak RPM, speed, and load target are stored in a section of the DME that can not be read/deleted by anyone other than BMW corporate employees using special equipment. So for diagnostic invisibly one must avoid letting the DME know any of those values have been changed. That is why speed deliminters and flash tunes are not considered "invisible" once removed.

But for those that don't are about that, out of warranty, etc, we have you covered. You can easily add it on.


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Terry are any changes planned for map 5? What about an Autotunning Map with progressive meth? That would be great.
No changes to map 5 for this next firmware update. Although as part of the meth revisions (for use with the FSB) we are working on an autotuning parameter for map 3. Which will work with the FSB or any flow sensor based meth kit. The next update will start data collection on it but the feature itself will be disabled until we ensure the algorithms are bulletproof.


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No changes to map 5 for this next firmware update. Although as part of the meth revisions (for use with the FSB) we are working on an autotuning parameter for map 3. Which will work with the FSB or any flow sensor based meth kit. The next update will start data collection on it but the feature itself will be disabled until we ensure the algorithms are bulletproof.
I'm looking forward to receiving the update.

Will there be any psi limitation on the map 3 with autotuning ?

Right now I can not go from 16 psi

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I don't provide 1 on 1 help via forums. Email me if you need personal advice.


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but is not a problem ... is a question whether there is any limitation of psi (as in the map 2 being 14.5 psi)


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For the map 3 additive? I think we allow up to +7psi.


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Default 06-06-2011, 06:28 PM

Terry,

Is there any way that in a future firmware update that you could make map 6 have all of its own settings for fuel, cps and boost? I know that boost already is and it would be nice if cps and fuel were also. Right now they are global and I like to change map 6 fueling when I'm at the track and it would be nice if I didn't always have to remember the fuel values and have to change them back when I leave the track each time.
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We may do that at some point.


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Default 06-06-2011, 10:34 PM

Updated to the 4/22 firmware today and ran the USB cable. WoW Terry I have to give major props to you for everything!

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