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Default 07-17-2020, 11:38 PM

Hi, looking to get some feedback on my log for a SS model and if I can go higher boost.

Running 91 octane on map 6 peaking at +4PSI along with Fuel Wire and EWG Connector. Megan down pipe, and FI exhaust.

Duty Cycle: 50 all across
FF: 50
PID: 20
Auto Shift Reduction: 60

Map6 Settings:
1500=0
2000=1
2500=2
3000=3
3500=4
4000=4
4500=4
5000=4
5500=2
6000=0
6500=0
7000=0
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Default 07-18-2020, 07:49 PM

Seems fine traction aside.. This runs better for you than say map1?


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Default 07-18-2020, 08:07 PM

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Seems fine traction aside.. This runs better for you than say map1?
I assumed I had to use map6 for fuel wire and EWG cable since they were part of the user adjustment settings. Let me try map1 and get a log. Thanks.
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Default 07-18-2020, 08:09 PM

Nope EWG and fuel control wires are active on all maps!


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Default Map 1,6 logs someone check them out for me pls - 07-19-2020, 07:13 AM

Map 1,6 logs someone check them out for me pls
on 91 octane with a mishimoto heat exchanger .
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Default 07-19-2020, 08:48 AM

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Map 1,6 logs someone check them out for me pls
on 91 octane with a mishimoto heat exchanger .
They seem fine to me!
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Default 07-19-2020, 11:22 AM

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Nope EWG and fuel control wires are active on all maps!
Terry I wanted you to know that since we last chatted i switched out of using map 6 and using the built-in maps 2 & 3, and it runs better with it!
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Default 07-19-2020, 01:33 PM

Good to hear!


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Default 07-19-2020, 11:18 PM

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They seem fine to me!
Should i use the ewg wires even though i won't be using e85?
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Default 07-20-2020, 08:21 AM

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Should i use the ewg wires even though i won't be using e85?
EWG is not fuel specific, and they are awesome. 100% get them


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Default 07-20-2020, 12:57 PM

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EWG is not fuel specific, and they are awesome. 100% get them
I think there fuel control wires that came with the jb4 should i install it?
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Default 07-20-2020, 01:09 PM

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I think there fuel control wires that came with the jb4 should i install it?
They came with the JB4 for a reason


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Default 07-20-2020, 04:05 PM

Hello Terry,

This is with 91 octane, fuel wire, and EWG connectors.
I reran the logs this time, but with map1 and map2 this time. The log got combined into one file for some reason. The last run is on Map2, and the second to last run is on map1. Please let me know if these are ok. Thanks.
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Default 07-20-2020, 06:16 PM

Runs look good to me, I can see a timing drop on map2 but it's probably OK if it feels faster than map1.


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Default 07-20-2020, 06:51 PM

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Runs look good to me, I can see a timing drop on map2 but it's probably OK if it feels faster than map1.
Thanks Terry. I think I'll stay with map1. I was losing traction on map2.
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Default 07-24-2020, 03:41 AM

Can someone check this log out for me itís was a map 3 run on 93
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Default Needing some help - 07-25-2020, 12:14 PM

Hello, I purchased a JB4 recently, no fuel wires, no EWG wires, just hooked up to a 2018 luxe running 91 with a couple gallons of e85 (2 usually)

I am having a large power dip when running WOT right as it's floored(no it's not auto downshifting)

whether i'm in 3rd and running it to 6500 and shifting to 4th, or starting from a dig in auto i'm getting power blips and jerkiness / a little stuttering all over the place, i took a log of MAP 1/2/3 flooring it from about 10mph to 90+ just letting it shift through the gears. any ideas? the ECU - PSI seems to be all over the place, not holding steady, and it's not like it just linear increases after a drop when shifting it's seemingly a random number between 6 and 10

when analyzing the logs it's clear i'm dropping to zero timing and the boost is dropping, but i have no clue why, i don't have bad fuel, the car should be more than able to handle this +4 psi map...

I was on a 2018 firmware and it would boost the +5 easily but i was having some issues, so i updated the firmware and it doesn't seem to build the boost as quickly or easily

Attached are 3 logs, different maps, same conditions

my mods are a catback and a BMS elite

(tried to post datazap logs but i guess the website kills those)
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Default 07-25-2020, 06:36 PM

How much 93 do you have in your tank when adding E85? You may have too high of an E content so its making out your fuel pump load.


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Default 07-25-2020, 08:18 PM

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How much 93 do you have in your tank when adding E85? You may have too high of an E content so its making out your fuel pump load.
I added 2 gallons an the 15 gallons of 91, if it was true e85 which is highly unlikely it would be E18 ish max which means I'm probably more like 15-17% I only add it in case the fuel is slightly off to ensure I'm truly getting 91.

I switched to shell nitro v power whatever crap and ran map 6 with a custom boost target setting and it was normal again, I have no idea what was going on last night
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Default 07-28-2020, 02:25 PM

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I added 2 gallons an the 15 gallons of 91, if it was true e85 which is highly unlikely it would be E18 ish max which means I'm probably more like 15-17% I only add it in case the fuel is slightly off to ensure I'm truly getting 91.

I switched to shell nitro v power whatever crap and ran map 6 with a custom boost target setting and it was normal again, I have no idea what was going on last night
I'm following and interested to know the reason why its doing this. On my 2017 SS I have the same issue and just gave up on it and stop putting in E85 altogether. ...same issues, hesitations, cutoffs, all those things you described. I found it does it most in 1st gear then anything. It did it to me at e30 ratio, e25, e20, even e15... the personal conclusion I came up with is that the Fuel Pump can't handle it...but on others cars, e30 is no problem.
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Default 07-29-2020, 12:10 PM

Any AWDs hit 11 yet?


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I'm following and interested to know the reason why its doing this. On my 2017 SS I have the same issue and just gave up on it and stop putting in E85 altogether. ...same issues, hesitations, cutoffs, all those things you described. I found it does it most in 1st gear then anything. It did it to me at e30 ratio, e25, e20, even e15... the personal conclusion I came up with is that the Fuel Pump can't handle it...but on others cars, e30 is no problem.
Can't offer specific tuning advice without a log of your issue but if you're just having issues in 1st gear then lower boost in 1st gear as needed.


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Default 07-30-2020, 10:31 AM

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Can't offer specific tuning advice without a log of your issue but if you're just having issues in 1st gear then lower boost in 1st gear as needed.
I am able to fix it by using the boost in 1st gear option in Map 6...I basically make it so it adds 0 boost and it doesn't do it. I'm attaching a brief 1st gear log when I had about E25 mix, and this is pretty consistant everytime I have the cutouts/hesitation, my AFR dips to 20...not sure why its doing that.
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Default 07-30-2020, 10:58 AM

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Can someone check this log out for me itís was a map 3 run on 93
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Default 07-30-2020, 01:52 PM

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I am able to fix it by using the boost in 1st gear option in Map 6...I basically make it so it adds 0 boost and it doesn't do it. I'm attaching a brief 1st gear log when I had about E25 mix, and this is pretty consistant everytime I have the cutouts/hesitation, my AFR dips to 20...not sure why its doing that.
Unless you're testing the quality of E85 at the pump you could be, essentially, lowering your octane instead of raising it. Ethanol quality can vary from day to day and from pump to pump. Also, the OEM low pressure pump cannot handle ethanol very well. When I used to run E blends, even with an upgraded LPFP, the car wasn't happy with anything above E20.
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