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Default 01-08-2018, 08:05 PM

We'll post the BEF maps here directly once fully released.


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Will BEF map be available for N20s?
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Default 01-08-2018, 08:39 PM

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Will BEF map available for N20s?
Definitely! I haven't gotten the files yet from MHD but if you have an N20 handy and get in on their BETA pool, drop me and email, and I'll get those files. Based on what we've done with the N55 and S55 so far I have a pretty good idea of what we want to do with the N20 initially.


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Default 01-09-2018, 02:01 AM

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We'll post the BEF maps here directly once fully released.
would it be possible add safety for the dpmi when running map6 in the flash map?

also what about the MAF sensor, back to the intake after flash?
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Default 01-09-2018, 09:12 AM

To properly run DPMI I believe you need a pressure sensor on your fuel rail, and then the JB4 should read that signal combined with the PI control box signal of the injector current, to monitor flow in to the engine.


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Default 01-09-2018, 02:40 PM

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What are the Android requirements for the MHD app? I get a not compatible message when I try to put it on my AT&T Trek HD. I use an iPhone, so thatís the only Android I have (thank god!).
Android 3.2 and USB OTG support. So your device seems to not support the USB OTG norm.

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Can the MHD BEF remove the speed limiter on the F series aswell? Can this be done in app as a selection, or are the BEF maps provided will have this done by default?
We'll add a flash option that wil be available whatever the map, BEF or flash only.

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If I understand well, JB4 BEF will not work on M235i and M135i ? Or only on M135i PWG ?
98% of the N55 will be supported (but for a few models stuck on an old rom like 7 series in Japan, or the Alpina models). And 100% of the S55.

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I have my DME unlocked. Do I need to upload the MHD flash software (25 min) and after maps (2-3 min) or can I go straight to the maps?
MHD always reaqries a long flash for the initial install. But anyways it is all automated you are not given the choice (and can't do it wrong either).

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The DME was unlock to bm3. Can I use straight a MHD map?

Do I have to buy any license for the BETA test?

Iím not finding. I only find to E series..
Email us to apply for the beta. Pricing has been posted on f30post, f80post, f87post etc. Obviously I won't post a product description on BMS forums - unless Terry is fine with that? that would clear a lot of questions here.

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Yes it's still the only tuning system you can remove without a trace.
AFAIK the jb4 can be detected even if removed, for instance with the increased fuel volume in the FASTA data (black box of the DME). We'll look into *properly* deleting the FASTA data wiht MHD.

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^^^ and I will buy it as soon as someone tells me what on earth I can expect from the bef with my f30 n55 pwg ***-liss deepee jb4 93oct 6mt car! Without some description of what this back end flash will do in conjunction with jb4 on a car similarily specíd as mine I think I will just save my money.
Wants:
- smoother power delivery
- more power
- more torque
- better throttle response
- smoother at low rpm while cruising in higher gears
- more exhaust burble
- get rid of weird 6mt rev hang in up shifts at high rpm

If the only n55 jb4 back end flash benefactors will be upgraded turbo guys and e85 guys it sounds like a bootmod3 ots flash tune will be the way for me to go.
You mean MHD OTS flash tune?
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Default 01-09-2018, 02:40 PM

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Yes you'll have to remove DME and mail it or take it to a tuning shop to unlock it and read out the factory flash, then modify that factory file using an XDF and TunerPro, and reflash via MHD app in Android. At least that is what I've been told.
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Yeah its gonna be bench unlocked first like bootmod. Just like how some E series n55 need to be unlocked before they can have mhd.
Terry, since Full OBD flashing (no unlock) is a reality, some of the post in the first page are now quite misleading.
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MHD wins.
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Default 01-09-2018, 03:08 PM

I just finished flashing Stage 0 - it took 27 min , using bimmer geeks pro cable

For power source, i used my other car to charge the bmw while flashing.

Didnt flash OTS Map , since i have the JB4 and will flash A BackEnd Map.


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Default 01-09-2018, 03:54 PM

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Terry, since Full OBD flashing (no unlock) is a reality, some of the post in the first page are now quite misleading.
Oops thats a while ago, I will now go and delete it.

Edit- I guess it was already done.


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Default 01-09-2018, 03:56 PM

I forgot to ask, does this have a flash limiter? I heard magic motor sports say that you may only flash via obd2 so many times before the dme locks you out and a bench unlock is required and theyre currently working on a solution.

Ps: are you guys working with magic on this?


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Default 01-09-2018, 04:40 PM

If it does I haven't found it yet. I've flashed our M3 over 30 times already.


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I'll delete the old posts on the first page to avoid confusion!


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Default 01-09-2018, 06:25 PM

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AFAIK the jb4 can be detected even if removed, for instance with the increased fuel volume in the FASTA data (black box of the DME). We'll look into *properly* deleting the FASTA data wiht MHD.
Id like to hear more about this!


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AFAIK the jb4 can be detected even if removed, for instance with the increased fuel volume in the FASTA data (black box of the DME). We'll look into *properly* deleting the FASTA data wiht MHD.
That was true, in 2009. But once we added the fuel pressure control the DME is no longer properly tracking injection volume. As as result I've never heard of anyone flagged that way in almost 8 years now. The dealership guys are not really aware of the details of this so they believe it still works based on the 2008 memo they received. There are other methods they use within the FASTA data set but nothing else will jump out of place with a JB4. With a flash of course peak load demand, peak torque demand, etc, stand out so that is what must be sorted out how to clear. For the JB4 they only catch it if you leave it on or if you trigger a bunch of faults that imply it was tuned (like, not disconnecting battery first and triggering a bunch of sensor faults you don't properly clear first), and then upon questioning, admit it. 90% of the time people are flagged for down pipe or intakes, mods that are visually easy to see.

That said, the change was not to help people avoid detection, but to improve the JB4's tuning ability with fuel trim changes. If you break something modifying it, whether with a JB4, MHD flash tune, or any other part, you should pay for the resulting repairs.


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Default 01-09-2018, 07:17 PM

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If it does I haven't found it yet. I've flashed our M3 over 30 times already.
I think magic said it was around 90ish times, I cant remember though.


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I think magic said it was around 90ish times, I cant remember though.
If true I'll have a nice low mileage M3 for sale, in about a month.


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If true I'll have a nice low mileage M3 for sale, in about a month.
Lol, I heard a solution was on the way without an ecu unlock, if mhd and magic are together then they'll get the tech too.


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Working on speeding up our F series JB4 logging thanks to help from Martial.


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Working on speeding up our F series JB4 logging thanks to help from Martial.



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Default 01-10-2018, 06:40 PM

This is getting really exciting! Loving all the effort, passion, and options us N55 guys are gonna have with the JB4 and MHD together, this is the really the 'go to' combo!


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@Terry let me understand. I am running on map5, i unplug the obd and flash map 0 mhd, right. After that should i make a log with map5 and send it to you, or should i send you only my mods and goals, and where is the the right email? When i go to the burger homepage there are 2-3 emails.
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@Terry let me understand. I am running on map5, i unplug the obd and flash map 0 mhd, right. After that should i make a log with map5 and send it to you, or should i send you only my mods and goals, and where is the the right email? When i go to the burger homepage there are 2-3 emails.
MHD Stage 0 , will only unlock OBD and DME , it dose nothing to the car - so no need to log and send to any ony


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Default 01-11-2018, 12:07 AM

I know that mhd Stage 0 unlock the dme, but to flash a BEF terry needs a log or not to look to optimiz the car.
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Working on speeding up our F series JB4 logging thanks to help from Martial.
You mean the data rate at which jb4 reads data from OBD / CAN?
What improvement is expected compared to what we have now?


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