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Default Meth? - 05-20-2018, 11:01 PM

Currently driving a 2014 435i FBO. Jb4 BEF daily e30 mix.

Thinking about running meth for the weekends and a map without meth spraying for daily driving .

The reason why I want to run meth is because during WOT the BEF is targeting 18-20 psi which causes my HPFP to crash (limp mode) but before the limp mode the car pulls like a beast.

To my understanding meth is high maintenance but I donít mind it .
My question is after installing and running meth . What should I be looking out for ? Anything I need to know ? Also should I be doing a 50/50 mix ?
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Default 05-20-2018, 11:23 PM

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Currently driving a 2014 435i FBO. Jb4 BEF daily e30 mix.

Thinking about running meth for the weekends and a map without meth spraying for daily driving .

The reason why I want to run meth is because during WOT the BEF is targeting 18-20 psi which causes my HPFP to crash (limp mode) but before the limp mode the car pulls like a beast.

To my understanding meth is high maintenance but I donít mind it .
My question is after installing and running meth . What should I be looking out for ? Anything I need to know ? Also should I be doing a 50/50 mix ?
Meth is awesome.
50/50 is fine in my opinion.
I dont find it much of a job as far as maintenance goes, just a little fill up now and then.


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Default 05-21-2018, 02:52 PM

Just keep checking the tank once every few days if you get a 1 gallon. Other than that there's really not maintenance other than cleaning the filter maybe once every couple months or so if that.


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Default 05-21-2018, 03:27 PM

Methanol injection is not high maintenance. I recommend you spray daily. more octane, cooling/protection against detonation, helps fight against carbon build up. if your after octane increase this will defiantly help. I personally run 100% on my daily to help combat California's poor fuel and my performance requirements. You will hear various opinions on what blend to run, just run what you feel comfortable with.
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Default 05-21-2018, 04:09 PM

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Methanol injection is not high maintenance. I recommend you spray daily. more octane, cooling/protection against detonation, helps fight against carbon build up. if your after octane increase this will defiantly help. I personally run 100% on my daily to help combat California's poor fuel and my performance requirements. You will hear various opinions on what blend to run, just run what you feel comfortable with.
Agreed and welcome! Nice informative first post, CA 91 is horrible and with methanol it makes the world of difference.


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Default 05-22-2018, 10:59 AM

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Just keep checking the tank once every few days if you get a 1 gallon. Other than that there's really not maintenance other than cleaning the filter maybe once every couple months or so if that.
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Methanol injection is not high maintenance. I recommend you spray daily. more octane, cooling/protection against detonation, helps fight against carbon build up. if your after octane increase this will defiantly help. I personally run 100% on my daily to help combat California's poor fuel and my performance requirements. You will hear various opinions on what blend to run, just run what you feel comfortable with.
Couldn't agree more with these two posts. I've been running DPMI in my M2 for the last year or so, I've run regular old charge-pipe meth injection in my previous cars as well. Long story short, maintenance is very little. I check the tank every time I fill up with gas / every couple days if I've been hard on the throttle and just top up as necessary.

I've experimented with a few mixes and don't really notice too much of a difference whether its 50/50 Meth/Water or 80/20. Just keep it consistent and you'll be good to go
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Default 05-23-2018, 07:00 AM

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Couldn't agree more with these two posts. I've been running DPMI in my M2 for the last year or so, I've run regular old charge-pipe meth injection in my previous cars as well. Long story short, maintenance is very little. I check the tank every time I fill up with gas / every couple days if I've been hard on the throttle and just top up as necessary.

I've experimented with a few mixes and don't really notice too much of a difference whether its 50/50 Meth/Water or 80/20. Just keep it consistent and you'll be good to go
Got it ! Appreciate all your replies . But you guys havenít heard anything about the horror stories that go with meth ? People catching their cars on fire etc.

I remember seeing something about checking for bubbles that may affect the flow?
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Default 05-23-2018, 09:14 AM

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Got it ! Appreciate all your replies . But you guys havenít heard anything about the horror stories that go with meth ? People catching their cars on fire etc.

I remember seeing something about checking for bubbles that may affect the flow?

I've heard horror stories about people eating sushi and dying due to a rare parasitic worm in one of the fish.. Doesn't stop me from eating Sushi. You can basically google anything and read some sort of "horror story"

Methanol injection when installed and set up properly should provide years of trouble free use. If you don't feel comfortable with the set up because of something you read online, maybe WMI isn't for you.
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I've heard horror stories about people eating sushi and dying due to a rare parasitic worm in one of the fish.. Doesn't stop me from eating Sushi. You can basically google anything and read some sort of "horror story"

Methanol injection when installed and set up properly should provide years of trouble free use. If you don't feel comfortable with the set up because of something you read online, maybe WMI isn't for you.
I agree with this. Always test your system by purging it thoroughly and verifying there are absolutely no leaks. If you run your methanol line in a sheath and run it in a way that it touches no part that gets hot, then you'll be perfectly fine. This is just common sense and really shouldn't be said. It's also not a very difficult task to complete.

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Default 05-25-2018, 10:00 AM

Agreed just use common sense. Done check your methanol tank level at night by holding a lighter over it.

I ended up spending the extra money on stainless line and have no regrets. The plastic lines and compression fittings will work if set up right. I found myself getting leaks here and there from too loose or over tightening the compression fittings.

I ended up going with stainless lines with an fittings.


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Default 05-25-2018, 07:41 PM

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Agreed just use common sense. Done check your methanol tank level at night by holding a lighter over it.

I ended up spending the extra money on stainless line and have no regrets. The plastic lines and compression fittings will work if set up right. I found myself getting leaks here and there from too loose or over tightening the compression fittings.

I ended up going with stainless lines with an fittings.

I'm running 100% methanol injection wanting to upgrade to AN fittings with steel braided lines. where did you buy your hose/fittings from?
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Default 06-11-2018, 06:47 PM

I'm running 100% meth on my PS2 car to combat any fuel system problems. Best $600 you'll EVER spend on these cars.

I'd run 93 and no meth, but 16 psi feels LAME compared to 23

I'm running a STOCK fuel system on 40% E85, 60% 93 octane with zero problems. HPFP is consistently in the 11-13 range and AFR is mid 12s at full go at 23 PSI boost.


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I'm running 100% methanol injection wanting to upgrade to AN fittings with steel braided lines. where did you buy your hose/fittings from?
I got mine from devil's own. I just pulled apart my system to check it out because it seemed like I was going through methanol more slowly.

Turns out one of the hose ends had failed and allowed rust into the line which started to clog the nozzles.

DO customer service was great and their products seemed like it was high quality. Not sure if I end up getting a fluke?

Anyways I replaced the small.section of hose and I'm good to go now.


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Default 06-12-2018, 04:57 AM

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I got mine from devil's own. I just pulled apart my system to check it out because it seemed like I was going through methanol more slowly.

Turns out one of the hose ends had failed and allowed rust into the line which started to clog the nozzles.

DO customer service was great and their products seemed like it was high quality. Not sure if I end up getting a fluke?

Anyways I replaced the small.section of hose and I'm good to go now.
I was thinking of buying the stealth tank, FSB and pump from BMS and then going with DO stainless lines and an fittings. Is this similar to what you or anyone has done as well?


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Default 06-12-2018, 10:03 AM

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I was thinking of buying the stealth tank, FSB and pump from BMS and then going with DO stainless lines and an fittings. Is this similar to what you or anyone has done as well?
We have a few customers that have done that, easier to route the plastic meth line in the car then after the solenoid a SS line is nice.


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I used all the plastic lines from BMS. The only connections are at the pump and at the solenoid and nozzle, so there’s no worrying about anything leaking inside the car


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Default 06-12-2018, 04:33 PM

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I used all the plastic lines from BMS. The only connections are at the pump and at the solenoid and nozzle, so thereís no worrying about anything leaking inside the car
Yup, that's the best way to do it IMO.


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I used all the plastic lines from BMS. The only connections are at the pump and at the solenoid and nozzle, so thereís no worrying about anything leaking inside the car
that what i did, and a little permatex thread sealant, no leaks in my system.

I have the universal 2G tank, i check it once in a while....I run 100% meth on stock turbos at 22psi.


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