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Default 05-18-2016, 05:33 PM

Like anyone on here I answer what I want to answer.


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Default 05-18-2016, 05:51 PM

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Like anyone on here I answer what I want to answer.
Hehehe... not even one teaser? C'mon, if my curiosity is piqued, I imagine that's true for most reading this thread...


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I have not finished tweaking the JB4 set up with Terrys help but the JB4 + BMS water/meth (50/50) makes a MASSIVE difference- turns the car into loccomotive - the power is addictive but weather (storms) here have stopped play- gettin 100 bhp to the ground is problematic let alone what ever my car is now chuking out.

Note. my first hit of boost / meth sent the car into limp home / power reduced mode and a missfire, stopped and shut the car off for 2 mins then went on cranking up the boost until the meth started hitting and just built up time on full boost and meth on, she now runs great and fully addapted after 3 full pulls through 1st to 5th which is as fast as I could go on back roads with kangaroos about lol!

I have been around cars all my life having spent time as a master tech then on the engineering/manufacturing side and time building and racing cars (full factory Audi S2 rally cars, McClarens, Pilbeams, Zetec BMW turbo motors, various Porsches and formula cars to mention a tiny few) not to mention the any (100+) cars I have owns and tuned to know a good product- the JB4 platform and the App are simple to fit, great to tune and give great proven results everytime.

I tip my hat to you Terry and Co. Keep up the great work and keep feeding us updates

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Default 05-20-2016, 05:27 AM

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I have not finished tweaking the JB4 set up with Terrys help but the JB4 + BMS water/meth (50/50) makes a MASSIVE difference- turns the car into loccomotive - the power is addictive but weather (storms) here have stopped play- gettin 100 bhp to the ground is problematic let alone what ever my car is now chuking out.

Note. my first hit of boost / meth sent the car into limp home / power reduced mode and a missfire, stopped and shut the car off for 2 mins then went on cranking up the boost until the meth started hitting and just built up time on full boost and meth on, she now runs great and fully addapted after 3 full pulls through 1st to 5th which is as fast as I could go on back roads with kangaroos about lol!

I have been around cars all my life having spent time as a master tech then on the engineering/manufacturing side and time building and racing cars (full factory Audi S2 rally cars, McClarens, Pilbeams, Zetec BMW turbo motors, various Porsches and formula cars to mention a tiny few) not to mention the any (100+) cars I have owns and tuned to know a good product- the JB4 platform and the App are simple to fit, great to tune and give great proven results everytime.

I tip my hat to you Terry and Co. Keep up the great work and keep feeding us updates

Jay
Just make sure your plugs get changed every 25k miles as they dont last long on this car (I had misfire issues that only surfaced after increasing boost) and while your in there regap the new oem plugs to 0.02 per Terry


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They were changed at 50k, now on 55k so should be good- will do them every 15k.

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Beating a dead horse here, but it'd be awesome if you could make these work on the first gen S63 engines.
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Default 05-21-2016, 08:53 AM

Nothing to indicate it won't work for the S63 yet.


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Default 05-21-2016, 06:59 PM

M5James, looks like Terry is saying buy JB4/BMC, fit it and log then go from there, you will soon know what functions work, are adjustable and what doesn't...
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Added v1.5 to the first post.


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Thanks! Getting my car dialed in on map 8 right now for an event. Does any of the changes like FF algorithm change help me? Looking to keep car on kill for weekend is why I ask and always little nervous to jump when car us rocking! If not I will update post event. Thx!
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Default 05-23-2016, 05:52 PM

what does ff mean?
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what does ff mean?
FF: Short for "feed forward" or the fixed component of the PID boost control system. This is the starting point for boost control and the PID will then adjust PWM above or below this value as needed for fine tuning. The user adjustment variable FF / wastegate adaptation value (0 -150) scales the FF value and will adjust itself over time as part of the normal JB4 learning routines. In addition this value can be user adjusted by RPM using the duty bias settings.
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Default 05-24-2016, 03:55 AM

CJ- how have you come by the knowledge of these function? I am getting stuck into my newly installed JB4 and understanding these feilds and adjustments would be good (and dangerous )
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CJ- how have you come by the knowledge of these function? I am getting stuck into my newly installed JB4 and understanding these feilds and adjustments would be good (and dangerous )
Under the support forum.
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21269
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Default 05-24-2016, 05:49 AM

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These are some exciting changes.

Is Map 1 the equivalent of a stage 1 box set at +4-5?

Can a non CP car running 93 octane run map 1 or should it stick to map 3?

Will the BCM provide any added benefit on Map 1?
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Default 05-24-2016, 06:13 AM

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Great news, thanks.

- For us guys that can already run Map 2 with the competition package, would switching to Map 1 on v1.5 result in lower boost levels? For best performance, Map 2 > Map 1 (absolute > additive) in this case?

- Any more information regarding the changes to the FF algo - assuming its minor tweaks that we wouldn't necessarily notice on our end?
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These are some exciting changes.

Is Map 1 the equivalent of a stage 1 box set at +4-5?

Can a non CP car running 93 octane run map 1 or should it stick to map 3?

Will the BCM provide any added benefit on Map 1?
Yes, a non-CP can run map 1, as it is additive. I believe without the BCM the car will not hit target boost on all maps (Terry can verify this), especially at higher boost levels.
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These are some exciting changes.

Is Map 1 the equivalent of a stage 1 box set at +4-5?
No.

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Can a non CP car running 93 octane run map 1 or should it stick to map 3?
Yes.

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Will the BCM provide any added benefit on Map 1?
Yes.


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Yes.



Yes.
Terry, what jb4 map should a 2015 non-cp M5 on 94 octane run?
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Default 05-24-2016, 03:10 PM

I'd start with map1 in all pump gas applications. Especially so since I want some map1 logs on various cars to evaluate. If logs look good then give map2 a whirl.


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Yes.
Thanks for the reply. If I don't install BCM, will Map 1 provide significantly greater power over a stage 1 at +3 on an otherwise stock non CP car? I reference +3 on stage 1 as I believe that is still the recommended additive on 93 octane.
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Stage1 is defaulted to 4psi now across the board. While the JB4 is also additive based it's as a function of engine speed, gas pedal input, etc, and ranges from 4-6psi.


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Default 05-24-2016, 11:24 PM

Firmware 1.5 @ Map 1, feels very healthy.

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Is there any other function changes or is the boost additive what you were aluding to early?
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Great news, thanks.

- For us guys that can already run Map 2 with the competition package, would switching to Map 1 on v1.5 result in lower boost levels? For best performance, Map 2 > Map 1 (absolute > additive) in this case?

- Any more information regarding the changes to the FF algo - assuming its minor tweaks that we wouldn't necessarily notice on our end?
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Great news, thanks.

- For us guys that can already run Map 2 with the competition package, would switching to Map 1 on v1.5 result in lower boost levels? For best performance, Map 2 > Map 1 (absolute > additive) in this case?

- Any more information regarding the changes to the FF algo - assuming its minor tweaks that we wouldn't necessarily notice on our end?
Log both maps on your CP car and lets compare.


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