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Default 08-31-2017, 01:07 PM

Not sure what the question is but the S63 has 3.5bar TMAP sensors from the factory. No need to replace those.


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Not sure what the question is but the S63 has 3.5bar TMAP sensors from the factory. No need to replace those.

Then two more questions.
1. FOL at MAP 6. If I adjust it there. Do it adjust it at each different Map or only at Map 6 ?
2. Boost safety at Map 6. Does it affect at every Map or only at Map 6?
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Default 08-31-2017, 01:58 PM

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Not sure what the question is but the S63 has 3.5bar TMAP sensors from the factory. No need to replace those.
The S63 or S63TU? The S63 (X5M and X6M) uses the same TMAP 13627585492 sensors as the N54, yet the S63TU (X5M, X6M, M5 and M6) uses the 13627843531 sensor, which is known as the N20 TMAP sensor per thread searches here. I know the S63 will likely never reach the same power levels as the S63TU, but M5 guys are running over 21psi w/o issues, yet anytime I try to go anything over 21psi on my S63, it falls on it's face and gives me a 2F24 charge pressure error so I figured maybe it's a boost sensor issue and upgrading to a sensor with a higher ceiling might resolve that issue.


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Default 08-31-2017, 02:36 PM

Last time I checked they were 3.5bar, reporting ~1.2 volts at ambient pressure at idle. 2.5bar sensors would report ~1.9v volts at ambient pressure.


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Default 08-31-2017, 03:18 PM

I'll pull them out and check them this weekend to be sure then. Thanks for that info. Even if it means buying sensors and your harnesses, would it hurt to upgrade to the S63TU/N20 sensors anyways?


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Default 08-31-2017, 08:40 PM

If they are not 3.5bar from the factory then I'd have to do programming to convert them over which I haven't done... I am 90% sure they are, though, so you're probably wasting your time on that.


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Default 08-31-2017, 08:56 PM

Fair enough, I'll check anyways though since I'm planning on doing your meth setup this weekend.


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Default 09-01-2017, 04:36 AM

- FOL. when you change FOL it change it every map.
- Boost safety do it also
- Same with the another functions to at MAP 6.
(Not boost, Fuel Bias and Duty Bias).
- If you change Fuel Bias and Duty Bias at MAP 6 its change it also at Map 3.
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Fair enough, I'll check anyways though since I'm planning on doing your meth setup this weekend.
Good, do that so we can be sure.
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- FOL. when you change FOL it change it every map.
- Boost safety do it also
- Same with the another functions to at MAP 6.
(Not boost, Fuel Bias and Duty Bias).
- If you change Fuel Bias and Duty Bias at MAP 6 its change it also at Map 3.
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Yes, Exactly same problem!!

Terry told me for a while ago to made all questions at this forum. S63.
Terry also now we have asked few questions HERE and he answer me two days ago that he is gone answer us.
Xhp is looking for x5m\x6m beta testets for their custom tranny flashes, you guys should contact them, maybe they can fix the shift points in normal D driving for you PS2 guys
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Fair enough, I'll check anyways though since I'm planning on doing your meth setup this weekend.
James.
Do you have same problems I and Paul have at the down shifting?
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Default 09-01-2017, 03:58 PM

I'm honestly not sure what you're referring to. Can you elaborate?

I randomly get a reduced power/30FF lately when I gently roll into the throttle but it's got zero issues if I'm hard on it. I've attributed it to the warmer weather lately but I'm going to dig deeper this weekend.


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I'm honestly not sure what you're referring to. Can you elaborate?

I randomly get a reduced power/30FF lately when I gently roll into the throttle but it's got zero issues if I'm hard on it. I've attributed it to the warmer weather lately but I'm going to dig deeper this weekend.
Any news?
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I'm mid meth install...plastic and power lines routed, tank mounted, now I'm tearing into the ECU box to remove the JB4 from it's enclosure and installing everything inside factory ECU enclosure while connecting up the FSB as well. It's taking longer than expected but I'm hoping to try and install my catch can since I've got things taken apart.


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Default 09-03-2017, 01:57 PM

Terry.

Here is a log. Normal driving at 60 mph. AFR 15. Pedal in the same position. After a while AFR decreases to 11,5 and stay there in short time. After a while is jump AFR to 20.
Its do this al the time when is normal driving. Jump from 15 to 11,5 and to 20.
Whether normal?
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I'm mid meth install...plastic and power lines routed, tank mounted, now I'm tearing into the ECU box to remove the JB4 from it's enclosure and installing everything inside factory ECU enclosure while connecting up the FSB as well. It's taking longer than expected but I'm hoping to try and install my catch can since I've got things taken apart.
Okey.
Have you measured the map yet?
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Terry.

Here is a log. Normal driving at 60 mph. AFR 15. Pedal in the same position. After a while AFR decreases to 11,5 and stay there in short time. After a while is jump AFR to 20.
Its do this al the time when is normal driving. Jump from 15 to 11,5 and to 20.
Whether normal?
While there's so few of us that it seems to make more sense to post logs on this specific thread, I've been told to post logs in the logs subforum, not on this thread...that way more JB4 users set it vs just Terry.

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Okey.
Have you measured the map yet?
I'm not sure what you mean. Right now I'm just testing the system...it oddly runs butter smooth for like 5 seconds, nice fine mist and then suddenly the meth line vibrates and the mist flutters with it. I'm hoping I don't have a bad pump.


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I'm not sure what you mean. Right now I'm just testing the system...it oddly runs butter smooth for like 5 seconds, nice fine mist and then suddenly the meth line vibrates and the mist flutters with it. I'm hoping I don't have a bad pump.
I mean the Tmap sensor. Is it a 3,5 bar sensor?
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[QUOTE=m5james;556754]I'm honestly not sure what you're referring to. Can you elaborate?


I have small probleems with JB4. Few times its show me "reduce power".
After few minutes its gone. No fault codes. This problem happen overtime
(engine os cold) when you floor it from higher gear to lower gear and its dangerous. If you're just bypassing another car and then its happen. You cant do anything than braking and retreating to your own lane back because you have no power, but if the another car brakes too, there will be some serious problems.

Its help when you turn of the engine and start it again and you floor it twice and then its work great again.
it seems that every time there is a need for a new adaptation.
I must do it every day.

Do you have such of problems?
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I mean the Tmap sensor. Is it a 3,5 bar sensor?
Oh, I haven't gotten that far yet...I've been methodically installing the JB4, BCM and FSB into the factory ECU enclosure. I tried priming the meth system but it's not doing anything so I've gotta check things in the morning.

I did see a setting under User Settings where we can set N20 TMAP at either 0 or 1. I wonder if that'll help?


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What's the best way to check for firmware updates? Min is currently 6/1//5.. also does anyone know about tuning in New York area at a reasonable price.. most these places want 2500$ plus smh. Thanks guys
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Oh, I haven't gotten that far yet...I've been methodically installing the JB4, BCM and FSB into the factory ECU enclosure. I tried priming the meth system but it's not doing anything so I've gotta check things in the morning.

I did see a setting under User Settings where we can set N20 TMAP at either 0 or 1. I wonder if that'll help?

Okay thank you.
Did you have same reduce power problem we have at the down shift?
Cant install the stage II Turbos before I now what the problem is?
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I asked earlier...I don't know what downshifting issue you're referring to and you didn't reply.


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