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Default 09-03-2021, 11:32 AM

Noticed there was a lot of talk about the installs but I never gave the app and how to how to change maps a thought so I'm a little clueless there lol
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Default 09-03-2021, 01:05 PM

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Is the app in the play store called jb4 mobile?
Just got home from vacation and my unit was here waiting for me! I wanna make sure I do everything correctly! I ordered the Bluetooth adapter and need to install that but I want the app installed first...... If so once the app is installed and the unit is installed then I can use my phone to change maps?
Yup, it's jb4 mobile, costs $28. And yes you can change maps at any time while driving in the app. The app also data logs and will let you read and clear codes.
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Default 09-03-2021, 01:08 PM

Bought it....Installed it....and in the limited driving I just did.....the car definitely puts you back in the seat! Had to adjust/modify the MAF connector to "Click" in......but other than that....smooth as silk!
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Default 09-03-2021, 02:09 PM

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Bought it....Installed it....and in the limited driving I just did.....the car definitely puts you back in the seat! Had to adjust/modify the MAF connector to "Click" in......but other than that....smooth as silk!


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Default 09-03-2021, 02:44 PM

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Bought it....Installed it....and in the limited driving I just did.....the car definitely puts you back in the seat! Had to adjust/modify the MAF connector to "Click" in......but other than that....smooth as silk!
Right on! This car is almost perfect thanks to BMS. Now the only thing it needs is a full turbo back exhaust from Corksport.

And a bigger/twin scroll turbo... And higher flow fuel pump and injectors, and upgraded brakes and forged internals and...

I think I have a problem.
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Default 09-03-2021, 07:30 PM

Alright boys and girls, I finally got my JB4 installed on my 2019 CX-9. Install was a bit of a pain on the FMIC MAP sensor plug; however, removal of the bumper is not necessary. There’s a small air dam on the passengers side of the FMIC that can be removed from the front opening in the bumper; it’s cramped quarters and difficult with extra large hands. The rest of it was a breeze. I wished the manifold MAP wires were loomed all the way, I loomed it myself anyway. Mounted the JB4 on top of the ECM on the passenger’s side, and mounted the wireless dongle on to the windshield shroud under the hood. Routed the OBD2 wires down the same shroud. Turned out pretty clean, but the wires are barely long enough to reach everything, but it is still nice and tidy. Pictures to follow.

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Default 09-03-2021, 08:31 PM

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Right on! This car is almost perfect thanks to BMS. Now the only thing it needs is a full turbo back exhaust from Corksport.

And a bigger/twin scroll turbo... And higher flow fuel pump and injectors, and upgraded brakes and forged internals and...

I think I have a problem.
Honestly I have noticed a huge difference in performance even just with the Corksport SRI, boost tube, and axle back exhaust. Just got my exhaust on this weekend and this thing can breathe so much better on the top end! Just need my JB4 to liven it up a bit!
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Default 09-03-2021, 10:36 PM

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Alright boys and girls, I finally got my JB4 installed on my 2019 CX-9. Install was a bit of a pain on the FMIC MAP sensor plug; however, removal of the bumper is not necessary. Thereís a small air dam on the passengers side of the FMIC that can be removed from the front opening in the bumper; itís cramped quarters and difficult with extra large hands. The rest of it was a breeze. I wished the manifold MAP wires were loomed all the way, I loomed it myself anyway. Mounted the JB4 on top of the ECM on the passengerís side, and mounted the wireless dongle on to the windshield shroud under the hood. Routed the OBD2 wires down the same shroud. Turned out pretty clean, but the wires are barely long enough to reach everything, but it is still nice and tidy. Pictures to follow.
Pictures might be hard to upload here if you don't have a third party host.
You can email me Payam@burgertuning.com


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Default 09-04-2021, 06:49 AM

I only have one complaint...... Is the Burger tuning sticker that came with my JB4 had lost its stickiness.....it won't stickiness no matter what I tried......really bummed about that!! Lol
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Default 09-04-2021, 09:17 AM

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Alright boys and girls, I finally got my JB4 installed on my 2019 CX-9. Install was a bit of a pain on the FMIC MAP sensor plug; however, removal of the bumper is not necessary. Thereís a small air dam on the passengers side of the FMIC that can be removed from the front opening in the bumper; itís cramped quarters and difficult with extra large hands. The rest of it was a breeze. I wished the manifold MAP wires were loomed all the way, I loomed it myself anyway. Mounted the JB4 on top of the ECM on the passengerís side, and mounted the wireless dongle on to the windshield shroud under the hood. Routed the OBD2 wires down the same shroud. Turned out pretty clean, but the wires are barely long enough to reach everything, but it is still nice and tidy. Pictures to follow.
I think this is a good comment about wire length for the CX-5 and CX-9 models. I would have been able to run a cleaner install with a longer FMIC map sensor length and manifold sensor. Took a little more thought and routing to make it look acceptably clean.
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Default 09-04-2021, 03:43 PM

So while peeling off the clear part and using an Exacto knife to separate each and every letter and decal.....I MADE IT WORK!!! So happy........the car is a ROCKET now and I wanted to flex the BMS sticker!
Unfortunately I don't know how to attach a picture!!! Lol
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Default 09-04-2021, 10:42 PM

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I think this is a good comment about wire length for the CX-5 and CX-9 models. I would have been able to run a cleaner install with a longer FMIC map sensor length and manifold sensor. Took a little more thought and routing to make it look acceptably clean.
Sorry, I will make an install guide soon with the pictures I got from Jnance.

Brown wire connector should be the one going to the intercooler.
Multi color wire connector should be going to the intake manifold.
Then the JB4 will be placed on the driver side between battery and intake.

Should flow from left to right with the harness leading the way.


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Default 09-05-2021, 06:06 AM

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I only have one complaint...... Is the Burger tuning sticker that came with my JB4 had lost its stickiness.....it won't stickiness no matter what I tried......really bummed about that!! Lol
Wait, you got a sticker?

All kidding aside, install was just fine for me no hiccups.
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Default 09-05-2021, 04:25 PM

Hello! I ordered yesterday for my '21 Mazda 3 2.5T sedan. I'm very familiar with the tuning and modification of Mazdaspeeds (I have a '13 with a forged bottom end and E85 port injection, big turbo, etc) I'm also relatively adept at reading and comprehending data logs. I have some questions - particularly about fuel pressure (commanded vs actual) and AFRs when running E30. I'd also like to see the incremental increases in spark advance running the Eth mix. Also, are we limited to ~22.5psi by a factory 2.5 BAR MAP sensor, and is the stock intake anywhere near maxing the 5V MAF sensor with the small opening? Thank you!
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Default 09-05-2021, 07:21 PM

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are we limited to ~22.5psi by a factory 2.5 BAR MAP sensor
Iím not always watching or logging, but Iíve seen up to 25.7 PSI with my JB4. Itís usually around 22ish but it fluctuates. (Even the stock map fluctuates, itís supposed to so donít worry) Overboost is set to 26 PSI.
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Default 09-05-2021, 07:33 PM

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Iím not always watching or logging, but Iíve seen up to 25.7 PSI with my JB4. Itís usually around 22ish but it fluctuates. (Even the stock map fluctuates, itís supposed to so donít worry) Overboost is set to 26 PSI.
Sounds like we've been blessed with a 3 BAR, with resolution up to ~30psi at sea level. That is good news. I understand load based tunes will not care about peak boost, but it's good to know we have that window for future upgrades. I'm prodding the bear at Corksport to deliver on a heat exchanger and larger reservoir for the liquid to air intercoolers on the Mazda 3 2.5T AWD.
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Default 09-05-2021, 07:36 PM

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Sounds like we've been blessed with a 3 BAR, with resolution up to ~30psi at sea level. That is good news. I understand load based tunes will not care about peak boost, but it's good to know we have that window for future upgrades. I'm prodding the bear at Corksport to deliver on a heat exchanger and larger reservoir for the liquid to air intercoolers on the Mazda 3 2.5T AWD.
Glad Iím not the only one
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Default 09-06-2021, 05:14 AM

Curious.....When I got the JB4 and installed it....It had maps 1....2....3..and 4 but NOW I only have map 0 (jb4 disconnected) map 1 91+ oct 21 psi and map 2 93+ and 24 psi.....Where did map 3 go?? I have NOT changed anything except the gauge scheme...... Just curious as I REALLY wanted to try map 3 if possible.......but don't remember the requirements.... octane level...ethanol percentage....anyone else have that happen?

Edit: This is on the jb4 app on my android phone ....Samsung s10 if that makes a difference

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Default 09-06-2021, 05:08 PM

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Right on! This car is almost perfect thanks to BMS. Now the only thing it needs is a full turbo back exhaust from Corksport.
forged internals and...

I think I have a problem.
The 2.5T has forged Crank and rods stock..
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The 2.5T has forged Crank and rods stock..
If the ring lands can cope with some punishment, we'll be in the clear with this 10.5:1 CR. I'm hoping the axles, diff, PTO, trans can all keep up!
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Default 09-07-2021, 05:52 AM

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Curious.....When I got the JB4 and installed it....It had maps 1....2....3..and 4 but NOW I only have map 0 (jb4 disconnected) map 1 91+ oct 21 psi and map 2 93+ and 24 psi.....Where did map 3 go?? I have NOT changed anything except the gauge scheme...... Just curious as I REALLY wanted to try map 3 if possible.......but don't remember the requirements.... octane level...ethanol percentage....anyone else have that happen?

Edit: This is on the jb4 app on my android phone ....Samsung s10 if that makes a difference
I believe there's only Map 0, 1 and 2 right now. @Terry, will there be other maps coming out anytime soon?
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I believe there's only Map 0, 1 and 2 right now. @Terry, will there be other maps coming out anytime soon?
Yes I'm working on a few things now that we have more systems out in the wild. No set time frame but will let you guys know when we have something for you to test.


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Default 09-07-2021, 12:52 PM

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The 2.5T has forged Crank and rods stock..
That's awesome. Does anyone have any data on what the current hardware can take? I read somewhere that Corksport is designing their 2.5t exhaust to accommodate 450 hp but I've gotta wonder what else would need to be upgraded along the way to support that.
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Default 09-07-2021, 03:31 PM

Looks like backorders are a thing of the past or I got very fortunate - shipping confirmed! Thanks Burger!

Can @Terry or @Payam please explain the Ethanol blend usage with the current maps? I always run 93oct, but if the spark advance will self adjust to octane levels, I will run E30. Please let me know how you've configured the timing tables. Thank you!
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Default Install went well... Performance is sweet. - 09-07-2021, 04:07 PM

I received my unit around 1:30pm CST. I could not wait to finish my meetings and get it installed. Mind that I was in immediate care all morning for a bad case of turf toe.... Not moving all that quickly.... Let alone Crawling on the garage floor to get the odb wire thru the grommet. Total install took about 30 minutes. The storms here in the Chicago area passed thru, so I was able to get in a test drive. There is definitely a difference that one can feel. So worth it. I wish I could post final install pics as it ended up very clean for a 30 minute job.


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