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02-04-2019, 06:24 PM
Yes we have a few JB4 B58 customers running flash maps now, nice improvement over stock, although I'm not sure they are all 100% where I want them yet. But they will get there. 
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It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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02-05-2019, 04:11 AM
How is this different from the JB4 piggyback, though? Are these tunes that compliment JB4 and used in conjunction, or are they just flash tunes that replace the JB4 all together?
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02-05-2019, 06:46 AM
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How is this different from the JB4 piggyback, though? Are these tunes that compliment JB4 and used in conjunction, or are they just flash tunes that replace the JB4 all together?
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They compliment it. They help control some of the things that the jb4 can't coax the ECU to do in regards to fueling while the jb4 continues to control boost and give you the ability to make on the fly map adjustments etc. |
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02-05-2019, 10:48 AM
It's better if you wait for MHD since new maps will be made based off their back-end flash.
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02-05-2019, 11:06 AM
I got the HCP flash via Wrench studios in England. Really pleased so far. I'm running a e30-e40 mix with x98 in the tank. Trims look good. The car feels an animal at 60 add. So glad i went down the route of BEF with JB4 vs flash tune with mission. I need to get a 0 map log to terry to look at but so far so good.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&theater&ifg=1
2016 340 xdrive - JB4 - Dinan Midpipe - Dinan Muffler - Dinan Shockware - PS2 - BMS methkit - Dual DO7 nozzles - HCP BEF
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02-05-2019, 11:20 AM
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I got the HCP flash via Wrench studios in England. Really pleased so far. I'm running a e30-e40 mix with x98 in the tank. Trims look good. The car feels an animal at 60 add. So glad i went down the route of BEF with JB4 vs flash tune with mission. I need to get a 0 map log to terry to look at but so far so good.
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60 additive! Do you know how much boost your hitting? Target/Actual
2013 335is: V8Bait tuned, M4 DCT flywheel, E50 + AEM meth kit with dual BM5 nozzles, MMP relocated inlets, VRSF outlets, CTS 7" IC, DCI, BMP Stage 2 fuel pump, PR coils, 3" DP, BMS charge pipe
2018 340i: Pure Stage 1 turbo, BMS meth kit, BMS intake, JB4 + MHD, DP
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02-05-2019, 01:15 PM
Its targeting 23-24 and im hitting it. Did see the link to my facebook post with the log. Not sure how to attach pictures on here
2016 340 xdrive - JB4 - Dinan Midpipe - Dinan Muffler - Dinan Shockware - PS2 - BMS methkit - Dual DO7 nozzles - HCP BEF
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02-05-2019, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by j3vr6
How is this different from the JB4 piggyback, though? Are these tunes that compliment JB4 and used in conjunction, or are they just flash tunes that replace the JB4 all together?
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The flash maps remove some of the limiters in the ECU and get the tuning close to where we want it, and the JB4 handles the rest including setting the final boost target, fine tuning, features, logging, safety systems, etc.
Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!
It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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02-07-2019, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
The flash maps remove some of the limiters in the ECU and get the tuning close to where we want it, and the JB4 handles the rest including setting the final boost target, fine tuning, features, logging, safety systems, etc.
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So on a B58, what additional gains would you get with the backend flash installed with a jb4? |
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02-07-2019, 09:34 AM
Depends on your fuel, how aggressively you want to push the tuning, and what was changed exactly in the BEF. A good flash will raise the fuel limiters so you don't get a wobbling boost target and/or throttle closure at higher boost targets.
Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!
It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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02-11-2019, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
Depends on your fuel, how aggressively you want to push the tuning, and what was changed exactly in the BEF. A good flash will raise the fuel limiters so you don't get a wobbling boost target and/or throttle closure at higher boost targets.
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Will we need to purchase anything else or just hook the laptop up to the jb4 and install the flash? |
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02-11-2019, 09:24 AM
Most people use the JB4 mobile adapter for logging via the JB4, but data cable and laptop works too.
Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!
It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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02-11-2019, 10:27 AM
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Will we need to purchase anything else or just hook the laptop up to the jb4 and install the flash?
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The backend flash will go through the MHD tool so you'll need a cable and the app/license on your phone. Don't know all the details of cost or anything however. |
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02-23-2019, 04:58 PM
I was just on the MHD web site. There’s still nothing on the B58 release. Any idea how much longer?
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02-23-2019, 05:34 PM
We have the BETA software and are starting to play with it.
Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!
It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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02-23-2019, 06:19 PM
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We have the BETA software and are starting to play with it. |
Is it true we need a android device for the mhd tune? Or we can still do everything through a laptop |
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02-23-2019, 08:33 PM
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We have the BETA software and are starting to play with it. |
B00st!!!
2013 335is: V8Bait tuned, M4 DCT flywheel, E50 + AEM meth kit with dual BM5 nozzles, MMP relocated inlets, VRSF outlets, CTS 7" IC, DCI, BMP Stage 2 fuel pump, PR coils, 3" DP, BMS charge pipe
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02-24-2019, 05:47 AM
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We have the BETA software and are starting to play with it. |
Any plans for B48 BEF? |
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02-25-2019, 01:21 PM
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We have the BETA software and are starting to play with it. |
This. ^^^^^^^^
Pretty big update/news! 
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03-02-2019, 12:29 AM
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We have the BETA software and are starting to play with it. |
How is it going with the beta software |
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03-02-2019, 08:24 AM
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Is it true we need a android device for the mhd tune? Or we can still do everything through a laptop
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Android only for now: f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1583722
You will need the K+D-CAN cable, an Android device, and a purchased MHD license from the Google Play store to install any MHD-based flash maps. I am sure BMS will release instructions, but typically you flash MHD Stage 0 using your Android device and the cable, then flash the BMS BEF map using the same MHD/Android.
Beyond that, wait for BMS instructions in terms of what to do with the JB4 app & which JB4 maps to use specifically for the B58 BEF. 
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03-26-2019, 01:53 AM
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I got the HCP flash via Wrench studios in England. Really pleased so far. I'm running a e30-e40 mix with x98 in the tank. Trims look good. The car feels an animal at 60 add. So glad i went down the route of BEF with JB4 vs flash tune with mission. I need to get a 0 map log to terry to look at but so far so good.
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Where are you getting the ethanol E30 from in the UK and secondly are the fuel lines safe running E30 consistently from the tank? |
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03-26-2019, 07:36 AM
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Where are you getting the ethanol E30 from in the UK and secondly are the fuel lines safe running E30 consistently from the tank?
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People are running full e85 on stock fuel system.
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04-17-2019, 02:48 AM
How will the BMS BEF compare to the HCP flash already available?
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