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Default RB Next Gen Plus Log Review - 04-01-2019, 08:34 AM

I did a couple changes over the weekend, and logged. How does everything look? How do I smooth out this choppy WGDC? This is MAP 2, I would like to get this smoothed out before trying Map 6 with the values from the Hybrid turbo thread.

Changes made before log:
New NGK 1 step colder plugs gapped at .022"
Fuel it Stage II bucketless pump
Holley Hydromat fuel pickup
oil change

Mods to car: (2010 135i N54 Manual)
MHD Hybrid back end flash/w JB4
RB Next Gen + turbos
RB inlets
BMS intake
VRSF intercooler
AR *********
Magnaflow catback
M factory LW flywheel w/ Spec stage 2+ clutch
Charge pipe w/tial BOV
3.5 bar map sensor


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2019-03-31Map-2.csv
2019-03-31Map-2.csv


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Default 04-01-2019, 11:29 PM

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I did a couple changes over the weekend, and logged. How does everything look? How do I smooth out this choppy WGDC? This is MAP 2, I would like to get this smoothed out before trying Map 6 with the values from the Hybrid turbo thread.

Changes made before log:
New NGK 1 step colder plugs gapped at .022"
Fuel it Stage II bucketless pump
Holley Hydromat fuel pickup
oil change

Mods to car: (2010 135i N54 Manual)
MHD Hybrid back end flash/w JB4
RB Next Gen + turbos
RB inlets
BMS intake
VRSF intercooler
AR *********
Magnaflow catback
M factory LW flywheel w/ Spec stage 2+ clutch
Charge pipe w/tial BOV
3.5 bar map sensor


thanks!










Attachment 85084
Attachment 85084
Whoa! You are way over target- lower your boost safety to 20-21 for now.

Letís set your DB to 50 for now across the board


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Wonder why it didnít throw to into safety map since you were way over target
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Default 04-02-2019, 05:11 PM

I moved DB to 50 across the board, and set boost safety to 21.

Thanks for the feedback, here are a few more logs.

2019-04-02 18_57_45_Map-2.csv
2019-04-02 18_58_07_Map-2.csv


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Default 04-02-2019, 10:59 PM

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Wonder why it didnít throw to into safety map since you were way over target
His boost safety was set to 30 I believe prior


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I moved DB to 50 across the board, and set boost safety to 21.

Thanks for the feedback, here are a few more logs.

Attachment 85148
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Lower DB by 5 from 3k-4K

Otherwise logs look okay- a few timing drops on cyl 5, but 5 does happen to be the noisiest cyl in general .

Take 2-3 WOT adaption pulls & relog


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Default 04-03-2019, 03:32 PM

Moved DB to 45 from 3000-4000RPM.
Did quite a few adaptation runs.
Here is good 3rd and most of 4th log.
Thanks so much for the help


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Default 04-03-2019, 09:53 PM

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Moved DB to 45 from 3000-4000RPM.
Did quite a few adaptation runs.
Here is good 3rd and most of 4th log.
Thanks so much for the help


Attachment 85186
Hey this looks pretty clean to me

BIG improvement- how does the car feel?

What are you wanting to do? Leave the car here, change maps?


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Default 04-04-2019, 10:01 AM

I'm curious as well.
The WGDC look quite casual.
What fuel are you running?




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I'm curious as well.
The WGDC look quite casual.
What fuel are you running?
BP 93 octane w/ 3 gallons of e85. (May still be E70 winter blend,don't really know)


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Hey this looks pretty clean to me

BIG improvement- how does the car feel?

What are you wanting to do? Leave the car here, change maps?
Car feels smooth with a nice power delivery.

What do I want to do? Can my setup support 19.5-20psi on map 6? I am wanting to see what I can get out of the current mods. With 93 octane.

I plan to add port meth this summer. Either using PHX intake or plate injection. And push towards 25-26psi and try out one of the half mile racing events near me.


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Car feels smooth with a nice power delivery.

What do I want to do? Can my setup support 19.5-20psi on map 6? I am wanting to see what I can get out of the current mods. With 93 octane.

I plan to add port meth this summer. Either using PHX intake or plate injection. And push towards 25-26psi and try out one of the half mile racing events near me.
Just 93 octane? Or keeping fuel as is now (believe you have a little blend).

We can try it, if you want to jump up to map 7- that targets 19 psi if memory serves me correctly - take a few adaptation pulls & log, we can see what timing looks like


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Default 04-05-2019, 05:46 PM

The car was showing 30ish miles till empty, so I topped the tank off with BP 93 octane and switched from map 2 to map 7 and did 3 adaptation pulls before the below logs.

The car pulls pretty hard now. How are the logs?

2019-04-05 18_21_37_Map-7.csv

2019-04-05 18_20_53_Map-7.csv

2019-04-05 18_14_24_Map-7.csv

2019-04-05 18_13_59_Map-7.csv


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The car was showing 30ish miles till empty, so I topped the tank off with BP 93 octane and switched from map 2 to map 7 and did 3 adaptation pulls before the below logs.

The car pulls pretty hard now. How are the logs?

Attachment 85283

Attachment 85284

Attachment 85285

Attachment 85286
Imo boost looks good, however I think map 7 is a bit too aggressive for the octane/turbos.

If you look your ign_1- youíll see the drop in timing from 6.x down to 3.x mid pull- we donít want that + the drops on multiple cylinders.

Couple options- we lower boost (via map 6)

Or you can add in some e85.


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Default 07-15-2019, 03:06 AM

Thread is a couple of months old but this looks way down on power to me.
Only saying because I'm looking for some reviews on RB next gens with a view to getting some RB TWO's plus's. I bought a meth kit in the interim and was putting down 358WHP with FBO + inlets. Am now putting down 401WHP with the additional meth (99ron NO E85) . I thought these were good for upwards of 500?
Logged your csv's on virtual dyno and coming up with ~375whp (I took the 3rd gear portion of the 3rd and 4th pull).
I'd say some tuning is in order as I don't doubt the turbos.
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