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Default 08-23-2015, 11:48 AM

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i dont believe there is a car on earth that can cut a 1.3 w/o being on slicks or radial lol
Godzilla struggles to even get to 1.30 on slicks!
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Even awd with slicks can barely do this trap time. 1.35-1.49 is typical for RWD drag cars.


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Default 08-23-2015, 11:58 AM

It's simple. Anyone who's claiming some 335 or any street car really, with 20" wheels with street tires is running 1.3 60' times obviously has not spent much or any time at the track.


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Default 08-23-2015, 12:42 PM

the ET and trap speeds sound right for that kind of 60'. A 118 on a more conventional 1.8 60' will have you mid-low 12s. Perhaps they aren't looking at their car or the numbers got mixed up.
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Default 08-23-2015, 01:10 PM

The et is too low for the mph.


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Default 08-23-2015, 01:14 PM

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The et is too low for the mph.
It is low because of the 60' being low. Each tenth on a 60' results in two tenths off the ET. Not saying the car did that, but the 60' and ET vs mph are about right. The 1/8th time matches the 1/4 about perfectly.
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Default 08-23-2015, 01:17 PM

The 60' is not right, there's not a chance. The timing looks like he tripped the tree sensor late or something else went wrong.


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Default 08-23-2015, 01:22 PM

60' and 1/8th and 1/4 et's vs mph match up. I've been around drag cars for a while. I've seen more than a few friends run times like this. A buddy of mine had a nitrous 2v modular Bullitt Mustang with suspension work and it could cut 1.4s all day spraying out of the hole. Drove it on the street, ran mid 11s at 115 or so. Just because a Awd gtr has trouble with big ass turbos doesn't mean a nitrous car or similar can't do it with far less power.
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Default 08-23-2015, 01:32 PM

Yes, all that work and he's cutting 1.4s. Not 1.31. I'm sorry, but you have no clue what you're talking about. There's no chance that car cut a 1.3, especially with 20" wheels and street tires. You should go back to the track and see what it takes to do that, because you're not grasping how absurd that claim is.


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Default 08-23-2015, 01:36 PM

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Yes, all that work and he's cutting 1.4s. Not 1.31. I'm sorry, but you have no clue what you're talking about. There's no chance that car cut a 1.3, especially with 20" wheels and street tires. You should go back to the track and see what it takes to do that, because you're not grasping how absurd that claim is.
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Not only is the 60' foot, the 1/8 and 1/4 are off as well Anyone that thinks this car actually did a 1.3x 60ft needs their head checked.


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Yes, all that work and he's cutting 1.4s. Not 1.31. I'm sorry, but you have no clue what you're talking about. There's no chance that car cut a 1.3, especially with 20" wheels and street tires. You should go back to the track and see what it takes to do that, because you're not grasping how absurd that claim is.
I'm not saying he ran those times. Stop getting so pissy and stop assuming I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm telling you a 11.2 at 118 matches a low 60' like that. That's all I said. I didn't say the car was running it on 20" wheels nor did I say it was easy to do. I also didn't say it was THAT car. Notice in one of my earlier replies I mention that they might have gotten the car's numbers mixed up. And maybe the timing WAS off.

And before you reply, please re-read what I posted. Then read it again. And then before you reply telling me I'm an idiot or that I don't know what I'm talking about, remember I've been in the 'game' for over 15 years.

Again, all I'm saying is a 1.31 60' lines up with an 11.2 at 118 on a car that front-halfs a bit better than the back-half. A 118 in a conventional 1.8 60' will generally run a low 12 or high 11. So you drop 5 tenths off that time and you're looking at almost a full second on the ET. This is just basic knowledge about drag racing; I find it mind-boggling that you kids don't understand this. FYI: I'm not saying THIS car did it either. I'm talking about the numbers themselves, not the things that supposedly did or did not run them. Do you understand?

PS. My friend's old Mustang had maybe $1500 in the rear end to cut those times. Short ass gearing with tall slicks spraying out of the hole with a launch in the 6000rpm range in a manual transmission.
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Default 08-23-2015, 01:46 PM

I think it's pretty obvious that 135i didn't cut that kind of 60'. I assumed that was wrong from the get-go. Which is WHY I stated perhaps they got the numbers mixed. A 1.3 60' will carry the front tires pretty damn far out of the hole.
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Default 08-23-2015, 01:47 PM

Below is the datalog for the run. Once again, this is not my car and I don't know the guy.

I fully agree with Sered that the numbers work out fine for the 60', 1/8, and 1/4 for ET and speed. What confuses me is that it's a damn 135 on Nankang street tires. Of course I'm not saying it's legit, I'm just saying the numbers work for a RWD car with incredible traction. One that runs out of steam at the top end.

From looking at the log, he's not making huge boost on the launch, so I'm really lost. It took me over 500HP in my old lightweight SRT6 to pull off 1.5's, and that was with me spraying out of the hole. Now my old V12 TT AMG would pull 1.6's, but that's over 800TQ. Both cars were on ET Streets and hooked well. By the way, the 1.5 launches were brutal enough that my car stereo would come halfway out of the dash sometimes.

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Default 08-23-2015, 02:35 PM

That datalog just proves the whole run is off.


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Default 08-23-2015, 03:23 PM

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That datalog just proves the whole run is off.
When I asked him to post up the datalog, I was hoping it would show the vehicle speed. That would have been helpful in comparing to the timeslip.


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Default 08-23-2015, 04:22 PM

That guy is a F#$KING dreamer. He's running the cheapest tire on a 20" rim. Everyone know's that track has recently had new sensors put in and the sixty's reading are way off. He mentioned that a few other N54's with just a few bolt's managed a 1.4. Hilarious.


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There's just no way
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Default 08-23-2015, 09:22 PM

That car did not do a 1.3 60'. Plain and simple. Can domestics and other cars do it? Sure, not consistently. And that's with beefed up drag suspensions on tires at a prepped track. This guy has none of those combined.

Here's the just of it, show us a BMW, any year that has cut 1.3-1.4 60's. Any power level

The problem is that people that don't know and have only been on the forums, are suddenly experts simply because they read another guy state something similar.
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Hi guys I'm glad I'm the centre of controversy and can bring up heated debate over one of our favourite past times.

See the guys on the 1 addicts forums are only speculating on my mods I've done to the car, they have no idea what is actually done and I will not divulge it either.

When I ran my first 60 on nankangs Noble Sport NS-II which is a nankangs flagship sports radial it was after a drag racing event and the track was fully prepped and I got a lucky break and managed a 1.3 60 and a 11.5s quarter mile, I was having fun and wanted to see what the car could run in street trim.

It was a one off and I could not repeat it on 20's so to prove a point that it can be done the second and third 1.3 sixty foot was on another night on 18 inch semi slicks because hooking up the 20's is almost impossible on an unprepped track.

Going to lighter 18 inch wheels gained me .3s off my et over the 20's.

I've spent a lot of r&d on the suspension and getting the setup just right.

I don't see anyone else running 1.3's, so if there is a timing issue wouldn't everyone else be running low sixty foots.

I never took the video it was from a spectator from the crowd that came and wanted to know what was done to my car and he told me he had my car on video and I asked him if he could send me the video.

As far as I know there is no timing issue, I spoke to the officials and they confirmed there is no issue.

The tool that said they replaced the sensors is full of crap because the actual sensors are light beams which the car needs to be brake the light beam for them to be triggered.

There is just no way of cheating the system. If there is a problem with the system you get no timing data except blank spaces as I had this happen to me before a few years back.

I'm not trying to pull wool over anyone's eyes but the next closest track is over 400 km away and there is no e85 outside of the city so going to another track is out of the question.

I wish I had a vbox on those runs but i'm not spending over 500 dollars just to prove a point.

So take the results as you wish.
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Hi guys I'm glad I'm the centre of controversy and can bring up heated debate over one of our favourite past times.

See the guys on the 1 addicts forums are only speculating on my mods I've done to the car, they have no idea what is actually done and I will not divulge it either.

When I ran my first 60 on nankangs Noble Sport NS-II which is a nankangs flagship sports radial it was after a drag racing event and the track was fully prepped and I got a lucky break and managed a 1.3 60 and a 11.5s quarter mile, I was having fun and wanted to see what the car could run in street trim.

It was a one off and I could not repeat it on 20's so to prove a point that it can be done the second and third 1.3 sixty foot was on another night on 18 inch semi slicks because hooking up the 20's is almost impossible on an unprepped track.

Going to lighter 18 inch wheels gained me .3s off my et over the 20's.

I've spent a lot of r&d on the suspension and getting the setup just right.

I don't see anyone else running 1.3's, so if there is a timing issue wouldn't everyone else be running low sixty foots.

I never took the video it was from a spectator from the crowd that came and wanted to know what was done to my car and he told me he had my car on video and I asked him if he could send me the video.

As far as I know there is no timing issue, I spoke to the officials and they confirmed there is no issue.

The tool that said they replaced the sensors is full of crap because the actual sensors are light beams which the car needs to be brake the light beam for them to be triggered.

There is just no way of cheating the system. If there is a problem with the system you get no timing data except blank spaces as I had this happen to me before a few years back.

I'm not trying to pull wool over anyone's eyes but the next closest track is over 400 km away and there is no e85 outside of the city so going to another track is out of the question.

I wish I had a vbox on those runs but i'm not spending over 500 dollars just to prove a point.

So take the results as you wish.
So what have you done to your car to do something that no one else has even come close to? Even the high hp/high tq builds...

Also, post the slips from the other 1.3 runs.
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this thread is just too much lol


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If the rest of the data on the slip is accurate I'd guess it's actually a low 1.6. Maybe none of the data is accurate though. Who knows. Or cares.


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This track needs to re-calibrate their timing equipment. This is so far fetched it hurts my brain...
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The other slips are in the other thread on 1 addics
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Default 08-24-2015, 01:44 PM

Exactly terry all I posted is some time slips and everybody went ballistic

If the track equipment is off or needs recalibration that's up to the officials

When I asked them they said there is nothing wrong, if someone is willing to lend me a vbox I'll be quite happy to run a few more passes

Are the vboxes dead accurate
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Default 08-24-2015, 02:25 PM

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So what have you done to your car to do something that no one else has even come close to? Even the high hp/high tq builds...

Also, post the slips from the other 1.3 runs.

Look at drag times they have come close
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