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Default PURE Turbos N54 Pricing and New Option Update! - 10-19-2016, 03:47 PM

Dear N54 enthusiasts,

We appreciate the support. We are pleased to continue offering the best and most reliable twin turbo upgrades available for the N54 community. We would like to announce new PURE pricing and options.

We have sharpened our pencil on N54 PURE Stage2 pricing. Production efficiency has improved with our in-house machine shop and allowed us to offer even more attractive pricing. We have also settled on a hexon hand-out, to help those victims caught in the hexon failure storm. We run larger wheels, so the blown hexon turbos are re-machine-able. Therefore we can offer a 10% discount to those who return hexon cores. This must be done directly with pure. Thereís no advantage for us here. Itís simply a nice gesture to help the community.

Lead-time: 2-3 weeks. We currently have 22 pending N54 Stg2 orders which are being finished up now. We now have enough parts back in stock to build an additional 100 sets.

We are seeing an exponentially increasing amount of new N54 enthusiast owners daily. We see a lot of these new faces jumping to the cheapest option available. Well, that's exactly what happened with the hexon turbo customers. We always recommend choosing a tested and proven product.

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N54 PURE Stg2 "HiFlow" - $3595 + core exchange
Our well known Stg2 option which is documented on many customerís cars to be capable of 650-700whp

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N54 PURE Stg2 "DD" - $3095 + core exchange
This new option is intended for most customers. It was engineered for 550-600whp max. We have seen as much as 550whp on the stock HPFP only, and an easy 600whp with a meth kit.

Based on collective info and our own experiences, above 600whp is the point at which you greatly increase your chance of stock N54 engine damage. This also happens to be the power level that can often result in 6spd Auto Trans slipping and damage. This is why we consider this new turbo option appropriate for most of you. Low mileage engine/trans seem to do better and last longer. But no doubt, 600+ is where the risk substantially increases.
For those of you with goals of 650+whp on stock engines, be well aware you are running a high risk of engine damage. Be prepared to possibly spend money on a replacement motor. Commonly $4.5k-$6k for a good used motor installed, and $6k-$10k for a forged motor installed. This is not intended to scare or deter anyone. Itís just something that needs to be said and understood. Have we all seen stock internal N54 engines make 700-800whp? Yes. Do most of those engines die? Yes.

Our N54 upgrade turbos have proven to be strong and reliable. The handful of issues we have seen, out of the hundreds now sold, were due to oil contamination. We are finding it is common people wait for their stock turbos to fail before upgrading. Often times, contamination from the previously failed turbos get trapped in the oil filter housing and oil cooler. So make sure to flush all that out before installing new turbos.

Feel free to contact us for inquiries: info@pureturbos.com or 760-721-7669

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Default 10-19-2016, 04:50 PM

Out of curiosity what boost would you need to run to safely max out both turbos? For example if all I want is let's say 575whp on meth what boost would each turbo need to achieve that? Would I be better off with the DD's or 2+'s? I assume the only differences between the two would be a little lag and a few hundred bucks? Longevity is the main concern really, plus a nice 150whp bump over what I've got now should do. These seem great though, I guess I would never want to go past 650hp, so these would be the way to go?

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Default 10-19-2016, 05:22 PM

Any plans to move away from hybrids and design something similar to the GC's?
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Default 10-19-2016, 08:00 PM

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Any plans to move away from hybrids and design something similar to the GC's?
Interested in this as well.

Like the new DD option.
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Default 10-19-2016, 11:40 PM

Good to see prices on a great product coming down and having a 2nd even better priced offering is awesome!


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Default 10-19-2016, 11:41 PM

That's great news. You guys will dominate the market! I wish the new pricing and DD option was around back when I got my Hexons. They're going great so far but I know where to go if anything happens!
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Default 10-20-2016, 03:02 AM

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Any plans to move away from hybrids and design something similar to the GC's?
Their cast option has been in testing for a while. Updates are rare.
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Default 10-20-2016, 07:49 AM

Any idea when the Stage 2 DD's will be dyno'ed? Interested to see how quickly these spool.


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Default 10-20-2016, 08:45 AM

Nice job Pure, looking at doing some DDs in spring.


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Default 10-20-2016, 12:34 PM

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Out of curiosity what boost would you need to run to safely max out both turbos? For example if all I want is let's say 575whp on meth what boost would each turbo need to achieve that? Would I be better off with the DD's or Stg2's? I assume the only differences between the two would be a little lag and a few hundred bucks? Longevity is the main concern really, plus a nice 150whp bump over what I've got now should do. These seem great though, I guess I would never want to go past 650hp, so these would be the way to go?
575whp on meth could be done with either option. The HiFlow will do it more efficiently of course. Boost in the low 20's.

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Any idea when the Stage 2 DD's will be dyno'ed? Interested to see how quickly these spool.
Customers say our HiFlow turbos spool great. We focus on efficiency in the most important RPM range, 4k-7k. We actually somewhat oversized the wheels in our DD set for efficiency. We don't expect them to have lightning spool. That's honestly never been a main focus for us. All these twin turbo upgrades spool great.

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Nice job Pure, looking at doing some DDs in spring.
OK! Let us know when you're ready! Thanks
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Default 10-24-2016, 12:11 AM

Pure how are those GC BB turbos you mentioned some time ago coming along?
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Default 10-24-2016, 05:00 AM

I'm patiently waiting for the pure cast option too. Any info on how there coming along pure????


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Default 10-26-2016, 02:09 AM

I'm interested in N54 PURE Stg2 "DD" option and I'm curios what numbers can I expect from them since ATM with stock turbos on mustang dyno I get 304 whp?
They will be used with my current setup (no meth or Exx fuel), stock fuel pumps. Is 460 whp feasible on Mustang with such setup and 93 pump gas or its too much (I'm 100% sure 550-600 whp is impossible in my case )?


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Default 10-26-2016, 09:18 AM

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I'm interested in N54 PURE Stg2 "DD" option and I'm curios what numbers can I expect from them since ATM with stock turbos on mustang dyno I get 304 whp?
They will be used with my current setup (no meth or Exx fuel), stock fuel pumps. Is 460 whp feasible on Mustang with such setup and 93 pump gas or its too much (I'm 100% sure 550-600 whp is impossible in my case )?
The DD turbos are perfect for 93 pump. As for your whp result, that depends on the quality of your local gas, your tune, environment, etc. In a best case scenario, 93 pump can make 500+whp on the stock fuel system. So yes, you are on track with your goals. DD's are a great choice for you.
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Default 10-26-2016, 10:12 AM

Well definitely keep my eye on this option after previously only considering single turbo setups. Reliability is a must and more power than stock turbos offer are a must.


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Default 10-26-2016, 11:12 AM

What conditions need to be met for me to lay down ~680+whp out of the PS2s?

I run PIE85 at 27psi, and I'm no where near that.

During my winter build I am thinking of doing PI METH ST, but I'd rather keep my twins as I like the stock look.


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Default 10-26-2016, 11:54 AM

Is the MT capable of handling much more HP?

Also, would these fit on a 535xi?
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Default 10-26-2016, 12:19 PM

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What conditions need to be met for me to lay down ~680+whp out of the PS2s?

I run PIE85 at 27psi, and I'm no where near that.

During my winter build I am thinking of doing PI METH ST, but I'd rather keep my twins as I like the stock look.
Sure we are happy to help. Shoot us an email with log. Thanks

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Also, would these fit on a 535xi?
With a clutch upgrade, yes.
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Sure we are happy to help. Shoot us an email with log. Thanks
I'll take you up on your offer once it warms up again. Cold weather just started and the car is in storage.


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Default 10-29-2016, 11:26 AM

Curious, any flow charts?

I'm a mile up in altitude, considering the DD option and running a 50/50 e85 / 91 octane blend. I currently do not have meth, and I'd prefer to not go there. Any reservations on realistic expectations? I want to be in the 11's - currently running 12.7's @ 110 on map 7 up here with crappy street tires.
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Default 10-31-2016, 09:18 AM

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Curious, any flow charts?

I'm a mile up in altitude, considering the DD option and running a 50/50 e85 / 91 octane blend. I currently do not have meth, and I'd prefer to not go there. Any reservations on realistic expectations? I want to be in the 11's - currently running 12.7's @ 110 on map 7 up here with crappy street tires.
With no additional fueling (no meth, no port injection), you will be limited by the HPFP flow capacity. Or if you run straight 91 pump, you will be limited by octane. An E30 mix would probably be the sweet spot for you. It usually lands around 480-525whp with a proper tune. Thanks
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Default 10-31-2016, 09:18 AM

Also, an update regarding reliability:

We checked in with one of our early test cars. He emailed back over the weekend and said:

"Good to hear from you. My turbo's are still going strong at 22,000 mi. and 14+ months!"

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Default 11-01-2016, 06:20 AM

BTW one more question for the guys outside USA - do you ship them only from USA? Or you have some re-sellers in Europe as well?

Interesting from shipping costs + custom taxes point of view hehe


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Default 11-01-2016, 08:57 AM

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BTW one more question for the guys outside USA - do you ship them only from USA? Or you have some re-sellers in Europe as well?

Interesting from shipping costs + custom taxes point of view hehe
We have dealers in Europe and we have solutions for customs taxes. No problem. Feel free to email us at: info@pureturbos.com

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