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Great, thank you! I just ordered a set. Can you tell me what to gap them at? Doesn't seem to be much information on the inter-webs.
You’ll want to run the same gap as the other plugs. .020 - .026 anywhere in between there will be fine. Whatever you choose, try to be consistent across all plugs.
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Default 08-12-2019, 12:44 PM

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I haven't looked at the 2L PCV system yet, have photos of the current OCC offerings out? I'll see if this look compatible.
Hey Terry - just wanted to check back in on this. Are the pictures in this thread what you are looking for?

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Hey Terry - just wanted to check back in on this. Are the pictures in this thread what you are looking for?

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Thanks for the photos. I can't quite tell what I'd need to know, we will need to track down a local 2L Stinger to poke around. If anyone local to us has one can provide a free OCC solution (once we figure out how to do it!) in exchange for your trouble.


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Default 08-12-2019, 07:24 PM

Hi Terry,

Could you review these logs? They're my first hits on Map3.

On the 04_38 log, should I be concerned about the boost and throttle drop when it shifted?
It felt like a really lazy shift, never does that on Map2.

I was running 4gal of E85 mixed with 93, 103 degrees outside.


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Default 08-13-2019, 04:52 AM

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Thanks for the photos. I can't quite tell what I'd need to know, we will need to track down a local 2L Stinger to poke around. If anyone local to us has one can provide a free OCC solution (once we figure out how to do it!) in exchange for your trouble.
Damn.. wish I was closer, but I think I’m on the other side of the country. Where abouts are you located Terry?

I’ll see if I can get some buzz around this in the Stinger forum to see if anyone out your way would volunteer.

Thanks again for all you do!
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Default 08-13-2019, 07:23 AM

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Hi Terry,

Could you review these logs? They're my first hits on Map3.

On the 04_38 log, should I be concerned about the boost and throttle drop when it shifted?
It felt like a really lazy shift, never does that on Map2.

I was running 4gal of E85 mixed with 93, 103 degrees outside.


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Seems pretty normal to me here.
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Oops. Will upload new ones later.
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Default 08-13-2019, 12:15 PM

Just finished installing it all, New plugs gapped to .022, JB4 + fuel control wires, and the Fuel-It E85 Sensor.

Did a short run on Map1 then Map3 does anything seem out of sorts?

Car felt good no breaking up that I recall noticing. My only question is on the Fuel-It sensor. It seems to be registering with the JB4 as the E85 gauge populates data, but in the Fuel-It install guide it mentioned the following

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Within the JB4 app on the ethanol/E85 settings set “signal scaling” to 100,
check off “JB4 15/16 FlexFuel Input”, and save the settings. When active you should
see the E85 mixture appear under the “E85” parameter in the JB4 Mobile app.
But I'm not finding those settings anywhere. Maybe those instructions are obsolete with the v10 firmware?

Is there anything else I need to do for the JB4 to make use of the ethanol sensor data?

Just before the pulls for these logs I was at ~ 1/2 a tank of gas, I put in ~5 Gallons of E85 then topped the rest off with 93.

Also not sure if these logs are long enough. It was just a shake down run and I didn't have a lot of road to work with.
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Default 08-13-2019, 01:01 PM

Think I found the settings for the Fuel it Sensor looks like they are under WMI
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Default 08-14-2019, 12:39 PM

I don't recall reading from anyone else running the Fuel-It sensor so I'm not sure if this is expected.

But when I pull up the Fuel-It App its giving me a reading of E30 - E34. As I understand it thats ~30 to 34 % ethanol.

But the E85 meter in the JB4 app is reading ~ 15. In settings > WMI, I set "Signal Scaling (0-100)" to 100 and turned on the slider for "bit1:JB4 15/16 FlexFuel Input" I have the Fuel-It Sensor's white wire connected to pin 16 on the JB4.

Have I not setup something correctly for the sensor in the JB4 settings?

I also was able to do a brief run on map 5 that I've attached the logs to, car seemed happy but I'd appreciate an experienced look for anything that looks troubling.
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Default 08-14-2019, 12:58 PM

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I don't recall reading from anyone else running the Fuel-It sensor so I'm not sure if this is expected.

But when I pull up the Fuel-It App its giving me a reading of E30 - E34. As I understand it thats ~30 to 34 % ethanol.

But the E85 meter in the JB4 app is reading ~ 15. In settings > WMI, I set "Signal Scaling (0-100)" to 100 and turned on the slider for "bit1:JB4 15/16 FlexFuel Input" I have the Fuel-It Sensor's white wire connected to pin 16 on the JB4.

Have I not setup something correctly for the sensor in the JB4 settings?

I also was able to do a brief run on map 5 that I've attached the logs to, car seemed happy but I'd appreciate an experienced look for anything that looks troubling.
Email Terry
Most likely you need to turn 15/16 off and turn on 2/3 which may then reflect the correct values. But you should email Terry for support.
I encountered a similar issue but I also have a WMI kit where the pin in the directions wasn’t available due to the WMI FSB.

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Default 08-14-2019, 01:52 PM

Just re-installed my JB4. Updated to v10 firmware. Attached a couple of logs on Map 2. Please let me know if there are issues or if I can move on to the next Map (not sure what's next anymore, sorry).

Plugs gapped to .23-.24, AEM CAI, ***-free midpipes, AWD.

Is there anywhere that has configuration instructions/advice that delineates the functions of all of the options in the JB4 in a concise format? I don't want to read 102 pages. Thank you.
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Default 08-14-2019, 01:53 PM

Hm. What's wrong with "c-a-t"??
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Default 08-14-2019, 03:35 PM

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Is there anywhere that has configuration instructions/advice that delineates the functions of all of the options in the JB4 in a concise format? I don't want to read 102 pages. Thank you.
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Unfortunately, that doesn't cover all of the User Adjustment settings, etc. Looking more for full documentation of the app.
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Default 08-14-2019, 05:13 PM

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I don't recall reading from anyone else running the Fuel-It sensor so I'm not sure if this is expected.

But when I pull up the Fuel-It App its giving me a reading of E30 - E34. As I understand it thats ~30 to 34 % ethanol.

But the E85 meter in the JB4 app is reading ~ 15. In settings > WMI, I set "Signal Scaling (0-100)" to 100 and turned on the slider for "bit1:JB4 15/16 FlexFuel Input" I have the Fuel-It Sensor's white wire connected to pin 16 on the JB4.

Have I not setup something correctly for the sensor in the JB4 settings?

I also was able to do a brief run on map 5 that I've attached the logs to, car seemed happy but I'd appreciate an experienced look for anything that looks troubling.
You need special firmware for the sensor so just email me, I haven't posted it yet.


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Just re-installed my JB4. Updated to v10 firmware. Attached a couple of logs on Map 2. Please let me know if there are issues or if I can move on to the next Map (not sure what's next anymore, sorry).

Plugs gapped to .23-.24, AEM CAI, ***-free midpipes, AWD.

Is there anywhere that has configuration instructions/advice that delineates the functions of all of the options in the JB4 in a concise format? I don't want to read 102 pages. Thank you.
Looks all good here to me. What is the fuel?


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Default 08-14-2019, 05:59 PM

I think they call it 92 but is actually 93. What do you think?
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Default 08-14-2019, 06:05 PM

You could do a run on map3 just for comparison but I find map2 a good place to be for most pump fuels personally.


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Default 08-14-2019, 06:34 PM

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You could do a run on map3 just for comparison but I find map2 a good place to be for most pump fuels personally.
Thanks! If/when I get a chance I'll try it out. I'm about to fill up, too.
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Default 08-15-2019, 08:33 AM

Finally got to a track! Best run of the day was 12.711, 113.07mph. Got some logs too. Had 2 runs with throttle cut in the middle, but meh. Super addicting though! 1581ft above sea level @ 80°f.

Let me know what you see! Had the additive turned down a bit on both those runs with throttle cut, happened in the first few runs, turning the additive up seemed to fix that issue, but I am just guessing.
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Finally got to a track! Best run of the day was 12.711, 113.07mph. Got some logs too. Had 2 runs with throttle cut in the middle, but meh. Super addicting though! 1581ft above sea level @ 80°f.

Let me know what you see! Had the additive turned down a bit on both those runs with throttle cut, happened in the first few runs, turning the additive up seemed to fix that issue, but I am just guessing.
Logs look fairly clean to me. A few timing drops up top indicating more meth or octane would be beneficial but nothing severe. I'd expect better 1/4 mile times but some tracks are slower than others. Do a map0 run for stock tuning comparison on the same day?
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Default 08-15-2019, 02:10 PM

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You could do a run on map3 just for comparison but I find map2 a good place to be for most pump fuels personally.
Hey Terry! New tank of gas and Map 3. As I said, many pumps are marked 92 here but I'm told nobody makes 92 and 92 means 93. Whatever. Anyway, AEM CAI, mid-*****, .23-.24 spark plugs' gap.

First is a level on-ramp, next two are uphill.

Thanks!
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Map3 might be making a little more power but I prefer the map2 logs for the fuel/mods.


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