N54Tech.com - International Turbo Racing Discussion
(#1001)
Old
Fredm21 Fredm21 is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 86
Join Date: Apr 2019
Car: Bmw 335i 2007 N54
Default 08-06-2019, 07:12 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by iturbo
can you still launch with 2 step + anti lag? my car stumbles and stalls when i try? anyone else have this issue

09 n54 AT e85 bef
I think we all have the same issue, I had to remove the 2 step relay to use my antilag at the track this weekend. Not going to use 2 step until fixed.


-07 335i coupe
BMS charge pipe
Turbosmart BOV
VRSF down pipe
BMS WMI with single nozzle ( 10 )
JB4 map 3 w/bluetooth & antiliag
Afe intake filter
BMS intercooler
BMS tranny cooler
BMS Double baffle catch can
MHD BEF Racegas
Precision Raceworks Coil
-Running 91 octane with WMI
Reply With Quote
(#1002)
Old
Terry @ BMS's Avatar
Terry @ BMS Terry @ BMS is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 32,157
Join Date: Jan 2008
Default 08-09-2019, 08:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by iturbo
can you still launch with 2 step + anti lag? my car stumbles and stalls when i try? anyone else have this issue

09 n54 AT e85 bef
No it doesn't really work well for automatics, just makes noise. Best launches are off anti-lag alone brake boosting. I'd decouple the 2step from the anti-lag by unselected the WMI bit.


Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!

It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
Reply With Quote
(#1003)
Old
Fredm21 Fredm21 is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 86
Join Date: Apr 2019
Car: Bmw 335i 2007 N54
Default 08-10-2019, 03:44 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
No it doesn't really work well for automatics, just makes noise. Best launches are off anti-lag alone brake boosting. I'd decouple the 2step from the anti-lag by unselected the WMI bit.
Unselecting wmi bit3 doesn’t make it.. The relay and wiring has to be removed.


-07 335i coupe
BMS charge pipe
Turbosmart BOV
VRSF down pipe
BMS WMI with single nozzle ( 10 )
JB4 map 3 w/bluetooth & antiliag
Afe intake filter
BMS intercooler
BMS tranny cooler
BMS Double baffle catch can
MHD BEF Racegas
Precision Raceworks Coil
-Running 91 octane with WMI
Reply With Quote
(#1004)
Old
335xispeedguy 335xispeedguy is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 6
Join Date: May 2018
Car: 2008 bmw 335xi
Default Jb4 antilag + 2step not working - 09-07-2019, 12:16 PM

2008 bmw 335xi 6speed
Hey everyone, I am trying to get the crazy pops that Terry shows in his antilag 2step video. I'm all up to date on jb4 and bef and also have the 2step relay. For some reason it is not letting me save bit3 when I try to turn it on. I have not been able to successfully get antilag to work even on its own. Any help is appreciated!
Reply With Quote
(#1005)
Old
Terry @ BMS's Avatar
Terry @ BMS Terry @ BMS is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 32,157
Join Date: Jan 2008
Default 09-08-2019, 07:54 PM

What happens when you select it and press save twice?


Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!

It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
Reply With Quote
(#1006)
Old
335xispeedguy 335xispeedguy is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 6
Join Date: May 2018
Car: 2008 bmw 335xi
Default 09-08-2019, 08:18 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
What happens when you select it and press save twice?
It won't even let me click save. I can try double clicking it tomorrow again. When I tried the other day I clicked save a ton of times and it wouldn't do anything.
Reply With Quote
(#1007)
Old
skrillah416 skrillah416 is offline
FBO Minus FMIC
 
Posts: 20
Join Date: Sep 2019
Car: E60 535xi
Default 11-21-2019, 06:16 PM

Just finished the install of the Anti lag / 2Step running firmware 32_14_T11 (just switched from 32_12_T10)not sure if this is the one i should be using as its a bit confusing to me on which one i should use lol im also running a BEF Ije0s or w.e it is Pump Tune. Just about to head out the door and try it out. Hopefully all goes well id post some logs following it but not sure if its worth it. Ive got a Boost leak in my silicone intercooler to turbo charge pipe from the exhaust manifold burning it. Ive got the new one coming in on Tuesday hopefully.


2010 E60 535xi
FBO Minus FMIC
PRW Stage 2 Fuel pump
VRSF 3" High Flow Cats
VRSF Charge pipe
VRSF Stock Inlets
MMP Stage 3 Turbos

Fresh Engine Rebuild Top To Bottom and Shell Blasted as well as All new Parts Listed above.
Reply With Quote
(#1008)
Old
skrillah416 skrillah416 is offline
FBO Minus FMIC
 
Posts: 20
Join Date: Sep 2019
Car: E60 535xi
Default 11-22-2019, 05:19 PM

Im Happy asf tbh. At first it wouldnt let me 2step in N and then outta no where a SHOTGUN BOOMB! lol and then it started to work. Once it bounced at set RPM for maybe 2 revs then shot up as if there was no 2 step and i was flooring it. Anti lag works aswell but ive ran into a problem with off the line launch it builds up then starts to bog out like its going to die. happend twice so far but worked for the most part. But id like to maybe build a bit more boost on the first gear launch is the acheived by raising the 1 gear boost limits ? Antilag and 2 stepp is hella funn for the rolling races sound like im MT and sick ASF. I use the Vol Down button for the rolling ones so much funner and eaiser. i figured how to properly do it after failed attempts. Now one thing im not able to figure out is how to antilag and 2step off the line. My method of trying is. Hold Brakes, Floor it, then Channel Down. But nothing but failed attemps.

all in all im happy with all of it the JB4, add ons and the support.
Cant forget The Man Terry. What would us n54 guys be doing without him.... I Thank you for everything and more.


2010 E60 535xi
FBO Minus FMIC
PRW Stage 2 Fuel pump
VRSF 3" High Flow Cats
VRSF Charge pipe
VRSF Stock Inlets
MMP Stage 3 Turbos

Fresh Engine Rebuild Top To Bottom and Shell Blasted as well as All new Parts Listed above.
Reply With Quote
(#1009)
Old
jsnm's Avatar
jsnm jsnm is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 10
Join Date: Jun 2019
Car: F10 M5
Default 12-31-2019, 07:57 AM

@ Terry:
Any possibility of these being released for the F10 M5 and /or F30 340i??
I have quite a few interested with both platforms,thanks
Reply With Quote
(#1010)
Old
AnilKram AnilKram is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 68
Join Date: Jun 2014
Car: 09 135i
Default 01-05-2020, 09:47 PM

Someone asked this but i didn't see a response. But when doing a burnout with a manual, 2 step kicks in when the brake is depressed not letting me do a burnout. Any ideas?


09 135I MT jb4 g5/MHD Trebila backend Frankenturbo F21 FBO, PI, stage 3 lpfp, full E85, Quaife LSD
Reply With Quote
(#1011)
Old
Payam @ BMS's Avatar
Payam @ BMS Payam @ BMS is offline
Super Moderator
 
Posts: 6,155
Join Date: Oct 2013
Car: e90 335i
Default 01-06-2020, 10:57 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnilKram
Someone asked this but i didn't see a response. But when doing a burnout with a manual, 2 step kicks in when the brake is depressed not letting me do a burnout. Any ideas?
FUD:
bit0 - Disable steering wheel controls.
bit1 - Disable wastegate adaption.
bit2 - Use water temp in place of oil temp for warm up safety.
bit3 - Disable open loop fuel learning.
bit4 - Enable BETA Anti-Bog-Logic (Manual Trans Only, v32_11+)
bit5 - Block anti-lag from engaging on brake pedal, use volume only
bit6 - Disable FF RPM gain so duty bias RPM gain can be manually set more precisely.
bit7 - Alternative anti-rattle algorithm


Burger Motorsports
Home of the Worlds fastest N20s, N54s, N55s, S55s, N63s, and S63s!

It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.

Last edited by Payam @ BMS; 01-06-2020 at 11:23 AM..
Reply With Quote
(#1012)
Old
mattgu40 mattgu40 is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 87
Join Date: Dec 2016
Car: 2009 E92 n54, 7''fmic, ********, jb4g5 2step relay, bms dci occ chargepipe synapse bov
Default 01-13-2020, 12:07 AM

Anyone had issues with antilag/2step and aftermarket coil setup ?
i think my PR coils are what causing the issues.

when attempting rolling antilag with volume down and full throttle cause the car to fall on its face heavy drivetrain vibration.

issue happens with bms backend and my custom backend With modified tables aswell
PR coil, Meth PI
Reply With Quote
(#1013)
Old
Terry @ BMS's Avatar
Terry @ BMS Terry @ BMS is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 32,157
Join Date: Jan 2008
Default 01-15-2020, 09:13 AM

Hmm not come across any, log of the issue?


Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!

It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
Reply With Quote
(#1014)
Old
mattgu40 mattgu40 is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 87
Join Date: Dec 2016
Car: 2009 E92 n54, 7''fmic, ********, jb4g5 2step relay, bms dci occ chargepipe synapse bov
Default 01-15-2020, 09:59 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
Hmm not come across any, log of the issue?
here is a recentish WOT pull, and 2 antilag/ 2step attempt a while back all i got for now.

BMS Pi controller Meth PI, PR coil...
Attached Files
File Type: csv antilag fail.csv (34.0 KB, 76 views)
File Type: csv 2step anti.csv (5.2 KB, 78 views)
File Type: csv 2019-11-21 12_30_42_Map-3.csv (9.4 KB, 71 views)
Reply With Quote
(#1015)
Old
Terry @ BMS's Avatar
Terry @ BMS Terry @ BMS is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 32,157
Join Date: Jan 2008
Default 01-15-2020, 10:23 AM

What about normal anti-lag (not coupled with 2STEP relay)?


Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!

It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
Reply With Quote
(#1016)
Old
mattgu40 mattgu40 is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 87
Join Date: Dec 2016
Car: 2009 E92 n54, 7''fmic, ********, jb4g5 2step relay, bms dci occ chargepipe synapse bov
Default 01-16-2020, 01:25 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
What about normal anti-lag (not coupled with 2STEP relay)?
do i need to physically remove the relay for this ?
Reply With Quote
(#1017)
Old
Terry @ BMS's Avatar
Terry @ BMS Terry @ BMS is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 32,157
Join Date: Jan 2008
Default 01-16-2020, 09:48 AM

No you just unselect the WMI option to link the two.


Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!

It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
Reply With Quote
(#1018)
Old
mattgu40 mattgu40 is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 87
Join Date: Dec 2016
Car: 2009 E92 n54, 7''fmic, ********, jb4g5 2step relay, bms dci occ chargepipe synapse bov
Default 01-18-2020, 06:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
No you just unselect the WMI option to link the two.
Will do so once weather allow then report here.

Thank you
Reply With Quote
(#1019)
Old
Rajneil Sharma Rajneil Sharma is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 17
Join Date: Jan 2018
Car: 2008 BMW E90 335i
Default 02-03-2020, 09:14 AM

I've been playing around with the anti lag on my new turbo setup, but my RPMs dont seem to hold while I have the antilag active. I press the volume down button then pedal the throttle and the rpms hold at around 4200 in 3rd gear for a second then the car takes off without me releasing the volume button. Is this normal?
Reply With Quote
(#1020)
Old
Wrecker 426's Avatar
Wrecker 426 Wrecker 426 is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 147
Join Date: Nov 2016
Car: 335xi
Default 02-03-2020, 09:47 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rajneil Sharma
I've been playing around with the anti lag on my new turbo setup, but my RPMs dont seem to hold while I have the antilag active. I press the volume down button then pedal the throttle and the rpms hold at around 4200 in 3rd gear for a second then the car takes off without me releasing the volume button. Is this normal?
Shouldn’t.

Probably going to need a video or a log.


07' 335xi, VTT Stage 2, Meth CM10, Stage 2 LPFP pri, walbro 525 LPFP 2nd, JB4 E85 BEF, VRSF exhaust, Phoenix Race IC, MMP AL inlets, VTT AL Outlet, PR Coils, Fuel-IT CPI 950cc, Manual swapped, SMF Spec Twin disk
Reply With Quote
(#1021)
Old
Rajneil Sharma Rajneil Sharma is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 17
Join Date: Jan 2018
Car: 2008 BMW E90 335i
Default 02-03-2020, 10:37 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrecker 426
Shouldn’t.

Probably going to need a video or a log.
Sounds good I'll throw up a log in a couple hours
Reply With Quote
(#1022)
Old
BMW Playground BMW Playground is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 1
Join Date: Feb 2020
Car: 2008 BMW 335xi 6MT
Default NLS not working on Firmware 32_15 beta - 02-13-2020, 05:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
Note: Firmware and use notes to enable this is now in the specificJB4 threads!

So it turns out JB4 2STEP + JB4 anti-lag = awesome!



Do do this you need:

1) A general understanding of how the JB4 and firmware updates work. If you don't know how to update firmware you probably don't have the requirements to run this.
2) JB4 anti-lag working including back end flash map loaded all per the first post in this thread.
3) The 2STEP relay installed and generally working.
4) The firmware below which integrates the two together while under two-step.

To enable antilag+2STEP integration with v14+ firmware set bit3 on the WMI page (mislabeled DTML WMI input) on.

I'd start at 3000-4000rpm as a set point on menu8 and evaluate from there. The anti-lag integration will probably require some additional adjustment to our 2STEP targeting logic so I'd be curious to see how it targets various set points for various turbos and flywheels.
Hi Terry,

I am brand new to this forum and somewhat forums in general so if I miss use educate or post in the wrong area please correct me and direct me in the right direction.

I have a 2008 335xi N54. I am a big fan of BMS and live near by the Simi location warehouse. I have recently installed both 2-step and Anti-Lag and I would like to be very thorough on my installation and functionality. I’ve read as much as I could but still have some question on operation.

From my understanding if you are running 32_15 firmware on the JB4 you DO NOT need to install the green clutch wire included. I have installed everything and updated to 32_15 and have operation of my 2-step when holding the clutch down and setting my rpm in menu 8. I also have full functionality of my anti-Lag as well. 2-step and anti lag work together at a stop when I hold the clutch rev to my set limiter and press the down volume button. So it seems those functions are working.

For the NLS, when I hold my foot all the way down on the accelerator during shifts the rpms shoot up instead of “dropping like a rock” and making pops or anything. I am unsure if it’s functioning but it doesn’t seem to be working. Again, I did not Install the clutch wire. Does this need to be installed to work? Possibly I’m confused. Let me know what information you need from me to determine this. Thanks!
Reply With Quote
(#1023)
Old
mattgu40 mattgu40 is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 87
Join Date: Dec 2016
Car: 2009 E92 n54, 7''fmic, ********, jb4g5 2step relay, bms dci occ chargepipe synapse bov
Default 02-13-2020, 10:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by iturbo
can you still launch with 2 step + anti lag? my car stumbles and stalls when i try? anyone else have this issue

09 n54 AT e85 bef
Same would like some detailed installation instruction as it all changed 100 times
Reply With Quote
(#1024)
Old
brendan's Avatar
brendan brendan is offline
Brendan
 
Posts: 418
Join Date: Apr 2013
Car: 335i 2007 6spdman
Default 02-22-2020, 01:47 AM

Are the instruction on the first page current?

Last edited by brendan; 02-22-2020 at 01:52 AM..
Reply With Quote
(#1025)
Old
Payam @ BMS's Avatar
Payam @ BMS Payam @ BMS is offline
Super Moderator
 
Posts: 6,155
Join Date: Oct 2013
Car: e90 335i
Default 02-24-2020, 11:51 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by brendan
Are the instruction on the first page current?
Yes


Burger Motorsports
Home of the Worlds fastest N20s, N54s, N55s, S55s, N63s, and S63s!

It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (1 members and 1 guests)
Leon@86
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
Copyright © 2007 - 2020, N54tech.com