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I don't see that this has been asked before, so if it has already been answered, I apologize.

If JB4 BEF is applied and JB4 has to be removed (malfunction, damage, etc.), are we safe to run w/0 JB4 or do we have to flash back to stock? I'm curious is there is anything set in the BEF that will result in oddities or danger if JB4 is removed from the equation.
Iíve done it in the past. Car hasnít blown up quite yet.


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Default 06-27-2019, 06:41 PM

Hi @Terry: how do we know when you update the BEF maps on the first post since theres no version number? thanks!

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Default JB4map7_MHDmap5 Log - 07-03-2019, 03:23 AM

Would be grateful for comments on this Log, 4th gear pull, JB4 is in Map7 & MHD is Map5, One size 10 Nozzle spraying 100% meth from 2k rpm and 4psi, additive set @ 60.

I think the throttle cut was due to over boosting ?. Car feels good
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Default 07-03-2019, 05:28 AM

Boost spikes like that aren’t great and sometimes cause either the throttle to cut or the fuel to crash so you need to figure those out IMO. Email Terry for support. Also, what is MHD “map 5” supposed to mean? They don’t label their maps like that.


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Default 07-03-2019, 06:38 AM

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Boost spikes like that arenít great and sometimes cause either the throttle to cut or the fuel to crash so you need to figure those out IMO. Email Terry for support. Also, what is MHD ďmap 5Ē supposed to mean? They donít label their maps like that.
Just need to control the boost more on that Map, sorry my bad its the MHD Race map. not the Meth map.
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Default 07-03-2019, 01:28 PM

Any news on maps for or compatible with the B48 engine? Thanks, Jorge.
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Default 07-04-2019, 04:25 AM

4th gear pull attempt. Throttle cut off on top looking for a fix. Map3
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Default 07-04-2019, 07:21 AM

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4th gear pull attempt. Throttle cut off on top looking for a fix. Map3
Try increasing your Octane in some way, we all have the same problem with this platform
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Default 07-04-2019, 08:06 AM

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Try increasing your Octane in some way, we all have the same problem with this platform
I got 5gal of ms109 in the tank.
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Default 07-04-2019, 10:12 AM

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4th gear pull attempt. Throttle cut off on top looking for a fix. Map3
Your JB4 safety at work saving the engine. Check out that fuel pressure!
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Default 07-04-2019, 10:14 AM

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Would be grateful for comments on this Log, 4th gear pull, JB4 is in Map7 & MHD is Map5, One size 10 Nozzle spraying 100% meth from 2k rpm and 4psi, additive set @ 60.

I think the throttle cut was due to over boosting ?. Car feels good
Looks good to me. psi2 is manifold boost and it's below target the entire time. Throttle is used to help regulate boost in situations where we're spooling quickly.
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Default 07-04-2019, 10:37 AM

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Your JB4 safety at work saving the engine. Check out that fuel pressure!
Yes yes. Kicked right into map8. How do i fix this?
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Yes yes. Kicked right into map8. How do i fix this?
You think upping FOL to 90-95 could help?
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Default 07-04-2019, 10:59 AM

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Yes yes. Kicked right into map8. How do i fix this?
It's a volume issue so software won't fix this. What is the fuel mix?


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Default 07-04-2019, 11:02 AM

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It's a volume issue so software won't fix this. What is the fuel mix?
93 pump, 5gal ms109
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Default 07-04-2019, 11:22 AM

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93 pump, 5gal ms109
Fuel pressure should not be crashing on just race gas... Which BEF map?


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Default 07-04-2019, 11:36 AM

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Fuel pressure should not be crashing on just race gas... Which BEF map?
Mhd b58 wmi race
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Default 07-04-2019, 04:21 PM

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Fuel pressure should not be crashing on just race gas... Which BEF map?
This is interesting... Boost levels are low as well. I'm not on BEF yet and hover around 19-20psi on Map7 Add50 with 50/50WMI. Never seen such levels on fuel before. My FOL is only at 20. Curious to see what Terry concludes.
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Default 07-04-2019, 05:38 PM

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Mhd b58 wmi race
Iím no expert on race gas but is the volume enough at those boost levels without meth? Your meth flow is 0 so assuming no meth. Is that BEF ok to use without meth?


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Default 07-04-2019, 11:10 PM

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Iím no expert on race gas but is the volume enough at those boost levels without meth? Your meth flow is 0 so assuming no meth. Is that BEF ok to use without meth?
I didn't catch that... Trims are maxed as well. Looks like there's not enough fuel. With BEF do we have to enable WMI on all maps or just use map 7 and Additive?
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Default 07-05-2019, 06:19 AM

I was confirming he wasn’t using meth and wondering out loud if that is ok for the WMI BEF. Sure it’s race gas but if it’s a hardware volume limit then meth may be required anyway.


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I was confirming he wasnít using meth and wondering out loud if that is ok for the WMI BEF. Sure itís race gas but if itís a hardware volume limit then meth may be required anyway.
I thought about that. I will try running map7 with Meth and re-log
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Default 07-05-2019, 07:41 AM

Terry said the logs looked pretty clean, but also wanted to post up here to get the community feedback and see if it provides a data point for anyone else.

The entire BMS team is solid as heck.

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Any reason I should be running the “BMS RACE WMI” BEF Map? I’m hoping to hit the dyno soon.

0-60 was 4.22 and 1/4 mile was 12.44 with a 1.91 60’ on Dragy (Launch Control). Really want to go sub 4 and high 11’s. DA was also like 4,000’. 1-2 shift seems like it takes a little long, compared to the 2-3 and 3-4. It’s kind of like the car “figures out” what it wants to do, and then lays down the power very confidently. Maybe that is the turbo spooling and meth coming on, ha.
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Default 07-05-2019, 08:17 AM

4.22 is good. Sub 4? Do you have xdrive?


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Default 07-05-2019, 09:20 AM

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Mhd b58 wmi race
Grab a log on the E85 BEF with your fuel and let's see if the leaner AFR helps keep up fuel pressure on the same map. Just as a quick test.


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