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Default 07-21-2015, 06:55 PM

It's in the first post. Has a minor CANbus tweak compared to v5.8 to see if that helps with gauge resets.


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Default 07-22-2015, 02:57 PM

Hey cool, ive seen my gauges sweep driving along...wondered wtf that was...goin 5.9 right now.
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Default 07-23-2015, 08:52 PM

Anyone get random half engine lights that go away even after you ththrow on map 0?


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Default 07-24-2015, 05:51 AM

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Anyone get random half engine lights that go away even after you ththrow on map 0?
Yes. I was told these are underboost events and can be ignored.
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Default 07-24-2015, 09:08 AM

Updated. Ill report if I see anymore gauge sweeps.


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Default 07-25-2015, 08:19 AM

hi terry and forum members i just recently got a 2011 335i i just got the jb4 and got a few questions i was wondering which firmware would be better for my n55 Wondering do i use the G5 iso 30 or the n55 iso 5.9 ? really will appreciate the help if any forum members or terry could answer this question as im going to get the jb4 installed tomorrow
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Default 07-25-2015, 10:17 AM

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hi terry and forum members i just recently got a 2011 335i i just got the jb4 and got a few questions i was wondering which firmware would be better for my n55 Wondering do i use the G5 iso 30 or the n55 iso 5.9 ? really will appreciate the help if any forum members or terry could answer this question as im going to get the jb4 installed tomorrow
If you are buying a new JB4 it is not ISO. The firmware is located in the first post of this thread. If you want to perform the ISO mod, a link to that thread is also in the first post. If you go ISO then use the 5.9 firmware in the ISO thread.
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Default 07-25-2015, 10:22 AM

thanks for the info i just will snip the jb4 to make it able to run the iso
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Default 07-25-2015, 10:29 AM

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If you are buying a new JB4 it is not ISO. The firmware is located in the first post of this thread. If you want to perform the ISO mod, a link to that thread is also in the first post. If you go ISO then use the 5.9 firmware in the ISO thread.
I was wondering has all the problems from previous post as I read people having issues with the new ISO fixed in the 5.9 firmware upgrade ?
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Default 07-25-2015, 11:37 AM

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I was wondering has all the problems from previous post as I read people having issues with the new ISO fixed in the 5.9 firmware upgrade ?
Pretty much. If you have any problems post them up and 5.10 will probably posted a bit later.
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Default 07-25-2015, 11:56 AM

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hi terry and forum members i just recently got a 2011 335i i just got the jb4 and got a few questions i was wondering which firmware would be better for my n55 Wondering do i use the G5 iso 30 or the n55 iso 5.9 ? really will appreciate the help if any forum members or terry could answer this question as im going to get the jb4 installed tomorrow
The N55 has its own board and firmware. Don't load N54 firmware to an N55 board! Will prevent motor from starting until you fix it.


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Default 07-26-2015, 08:05 AM

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The N55 has its own board and firmware. Don't load N54 firmware to an N55 board! Will prevent motor from starting until you fix it.
Do I cut just one of the diodes as shown on the picture or both ?
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Do I cut just one of the diodes as shown on the picture or both ?
Either, clipping one is probably easier
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Default 07-29-2015, 05:41 AM

Couple quick questions for Terry or someone else possibly.

I recently ordered the BMS JB4 for my 2011 N55 135i. I am just trying to gather information about the setup procedure, install, loading of different maps etc. I'm trying to understand which crowd this procedure is for.
  • I guess my basic question is what is ISO? I get that it appears to be firmware related and I see the comment on the benefits but don't really understand why if there are benefits to this, the board wouldn't come set up this way?
  • Does this apply to JB4 units that are being shipped by BMS today?
  • Are there any downfalls to this and does it void any warranty? Worried about snipping resistors from the board without understanding the details.
    today?
  • Can anyone point me to some beginner threads on running ethanol?

Sorry for the basic questions. I was directed here by a couple other members and a lot of threads link or point to this thread but I'm wondering if there is a pre-cursor to this thread that kinda sets the stage for new JB4 users. This one I read a couple paragraphs in and we're talking about cutting electronics on the board so I'm scratching my head feeling like I'm drinking from a fire hose. Either that or I missed something.

I ordered the JB4 with flex fuel wires and a ********. I currently have the BMS intake and Active catback exhaust. Would like to toy around with ethanol.

Thanks for your help.

EDIT: Good lord. Why does it keep editing my wording above. You can't say D-O-W-N-P-I-P-E on this board?!?!?

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Default 07-29-2015, 07:14 PM

I am just trying to gather information about the setup procedure, install, loading of different maps etc.



http://burgertuning.com/instructions/n55_stage1.pdf


I guess my basic question is what is ISO? I get that it appears to be firmware related and I see the comment on the benefits but don't really understand why if there are benefits to this, the board wouldn't come set up this way?

Isolated boost control I believe. Instead of the JB4 saying add 3 PSI to what the DME says to target the JB4 says target 12.5 PSI. Boost is more consistent and stable.

Does this apply to JB4 units that are being shipped by BMS today?

Iso for the N55 is still in it's Beta phase so no.

Are there any downfalls to this and does it void any warranty? Worried about snipping resistors from the board without understanding the details.
today?

Vehicle warranty or JB4? I won't touch the vehicle warranty but snipping the resistor is easy. Do not try to unsolder it.

Can anyone point me to some beginner threads on running ethanol?

It's probably best to just search and read. Start low with your mixtures and slowly work your way up. Post in the support section to get feed back on how the car is taking the mix.

Here is an Ethanol calculator
http://www.intercepteft.com/calc.html

Sorry for the basic questions. I was directed here by a couple other members and a lot of threads link or point to this thread but I'm wondering if there is a pre-cursor to this thread that kinda sets the stage for new JB4 users. This one I read a couple paragraphs in and we're talking about cutting electronics on the board so I'm scratching my head feeling like I'm drinking from a fire hose. Either that or I missed something.

I ordered the JB4 with flex fuel wires and a ********. I currently have the BMS intake and Active catback exhaust. Would like to toy around with ethanol.

Thanks for your help.

EDIT: Good lord. Why does it keep editing my wording above. You can't say D-O-W-N-P-I-P-E on this board?!?!?

California emissions most people just use **


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Awesome. That clears a lot of my confusion up.

Last one for now.

Is it better to get ** fix in place or use the JB4 to hide the code the ******* ** generates? Basically just wondering if you I don't add the actual hardware to trick the sensor, does it mess with the ECU and fueling because it is detecting a *** failure?
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Default 07-30-2015, 08:26 PM

Zero issues with the JB4 installed.


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Default 07-30-2015, 09:21 PM

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Awesome. That clears a lot of my confusion up.

Last one for now.

Is it better to get ** fix in place or use the JB4 to hide the code the ******* ** generates? Basically just wondering if you I don't add the actual hardware to trick the sensor, does it mess with the ECU and fueling because it is detecting a *** failure?
There is no ** fix for n55. There is one in the works, but it really is only for people that need to pass emissions.
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Default 08-05-2015, 10:12 AM

Is Map 5 targeting above 16 psi with the ISO firmware? I noticed while FBO that the logs are frequently pushing 17.5 psi
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Default 08-05-2015, 12:26 PM

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There is no ** fix for n55. There is one in the works, but it really is only for people that need to pass emissions.
Who is working on it? I'd be very interested in it. I am currently using a o2 spacer and no codes so far but I am not sure if it'll pass emissions or not.

This is where I got it from.
http://www.42draftdesigns.com/O2-Sen...cer_p_306.html


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Default 08-05-2015, 03:00 PM

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Is Map 5 targeting above 16 psi with the ISO firmware? I noticed while FBO that the logs are frequently pushing 17.5 psi
I think it just spikes between the time you let off the gas & when the BOV blows off. That's what I've noticed, never noticed a sustained 17+ psi trend. If you use the JB4 Mobile app, you'll see even 18 psi on the Peak Boost meter. I thought about asking the developer to put some sort of timed average or have to hold the peak or WOT only on there to not catch that momentary peak, but that's another thread. Of course, also it is a "target" boost, and it is a PID control loop controlling the wastegate. Too much gain (or event too much SP - PV) could cause it to overshoot.


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Default 08-05-2015, 10:13 PM

I had 17.5 psi in map5 with stock turbo and stock tmap.

Some e85 was what did the trick it seemed. Not just spikes either but sustained through the midrange.
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Default 5.9? - 08-10-2015, 06:45 AM

Hey guys, I recenty bought a JB4 and have been running it as it came for a few weeks now. I was looking at the ISO files and figure why not. Quick questions:

1) Any downside/Risks to going ISO vs the "original" setup?

2) I see "release notes" for everything up to 5.9. What does 5.9 do?

3) Is there a procedure for the uploads? Do i have to do 5.5 then 5.6 then.... 5.9? Or can I just load 5.9 (after cutting the diode and crap) and be done with it?

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Default 08-10-2015, 07:17 AM

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1) Any downside/Risks to going ISO vs the "original" setup?
I would say the constantly running water pump issue would ruin my day. Seems rare but I read about it and I don't think I saw a fix anywhere. That would really suck. The other issue might be not having the option to revert to map 0.

I honesty couldn't answer your other questions. I'm new to the JB4 and was kicking the ISO update around but decided to hold off. From what I've read there isn't a huge benefit for people on the stock turbo so until I make that move I'm going to stick with the original firmware.
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wasnt the water pump issue caused by the unplugged heater element when running a catch can?


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