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Default 10-23-2012, 08:33 AM

What map and firmware? My trim issue was fixed in version E. Basically the car wasn't remembering the learned values before. If you are pre-E that could make sense. Otherwise, your timing shouldn't be like that with trims so high.

Does anyone know what avg ign represents? I see a lot of people with values in the 5 range for this parameter but on my car its always 0.


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Default 10-23-2012, 08:36 AM

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What map and firmware? My trim issue was fixed in version E. Basically the car wasn't remembering the learned values before. If you are pre-E that could make sense. Otherwise, your timing shouldn't be like that with trims so high.

Does anyone know what avg ign represents? I see a lot of people with values in the 5 range for this parameter but on my car its always 0.
map 5 and firmware E... This was my first run, no adaption prior. Timing did get better next run.


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Default 10-23-2012, 08:39 AM

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Does anyone know what avg ign represents? I see a lot of people with values in the 5 range for this parameter but on my car its always 0.
It represents an average of how far below the upper timing limit you're running. So lower values represent higher average timing which triggers the tune to run more aggressively. And then at some point the learning finds a happy median between boost and timing which is primarily a function of octane but also modifications, weather, etc.


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Default 10-23-2012, 09:24 AM

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map 5 and firmware E... This was my first run, no adaption prior. Timing did get better next run.
What did it look like after it learned? The first run is usually a bit funky...


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Default 10-23-2012, 09:25 AM

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It represents an average of how far below the upper timing limit you're running. So lower values represent higher average timing which triggers the tune to run more aggressively. And then at some point the learning finds a happy median between boost and timing which is primarily a function of octane but also modifications, weather, etc.
Awesome. So 0 avg ign is actually a good thing? I always run 0 when I am on E85/91 and was getting confused why everyone has that line.


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Default 10-23-2012, 09:28 AM

I also noticed lagfix past 80 really drags the car down when you lift. Seems to suck fuel at that point.


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Default 10-23-2012, 09:35 AM

Posted a few minor changes:

10) Version G: Rescaled lagfix such that a value of 100 = PWM of 78%. Higher PWM values during cruise do not further reduce lag and create unnecessary heat on the G5 circuitry. Default setting will now change to 80 as in previous JB4 versions.
11) Version G: Moved FUA=2 setting to FUB=2, opening up FUA for another planned use. Published list of valid FUB and FUD diagnostic toggles.

So for those using earlier firmware, ensure lagfix is set to below 80. Or once updating to G, you can use up to a 100 setting.


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Default 10-23-2012, 09:38 AM

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What did it look like after it learned? The first run is usually a bit funky...
No drops and cleaned up alot.. but it wasnt a full run to redline

Im going to add another 2 gallons of E85 and see if i can get over 15 psi. Its like the target boost is capping at 15..

If i cant add 5 gallons of E85 to a full tank, enough to clean my timing, get over 15 psi.. Then i think my e85 days are over for the winter lol..


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Default 10-23-2012, 10:11 AM

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My car with cold weather is hating E85! Every car is different i guess.
I added 2-3 gallons of E85, then filled the whole tank up with 93 octane. so thats a pretty low mix.

Did a log about 20 miles later, and my boost seems to be capping at 15psi, and my trims are over 50..

FBO about 60*F out. 2-3 gallons of E85 to a full tank of 93 octane.
This was with auto loop on, not manually set and at a default setting of 80. At the end of the run it was at 90
This cous also be due to the fact stations lower the ethanol rating in E85 in winter and I ha to raise my mixture.


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Default 10-23-2012, 10:28 AM

Trims are maxed, need more fuel. Colder weather needs more fuel.
Trims should actually go down with less ethanol content...


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Default 10-23-2012, 10:37 AM

I loaded G5_ISO_10G.hex. Does Map 5 have to be recalibrated?


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Default 10-23-2012, 10:52 AM

Any way to disable the NLS function? If not, will there be? Also is there anything out there that tells me what the number of SES flashes mean? thnks!
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Default 10-23-2012, 10:55 AM

Bogfix=100 disables NLS. SES flashes are per JB4 sticky.


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Default 10-23-2012, 10:56 AM

Nope no changes required.


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Default 10-23-2012, 12:07 PM

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Nope no changes required.
So load new hex and up the lagfix to 80 and call it done?
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Cool 10-23-2012, 12:16 PM

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Little confused...when I installed the G5, I uploaded the G5 firmware not the latest G4...was I suppose to do both?

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Nope, if you have a G5..... only load the G5 firmware.


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Bogfix=100 disables NLS. SES flashes are per JB4 sticky.
Thanks... So it's either two or four flashes? I've seen up to seven or so, but I could be wrong.
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Default 10-23-2012, 12:40 PM

I don't think the menu guide needs to be updated. There haven't been any new features added on the steering wheel controls, so no point in re-uploading a new image with a different date written on it.


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I don't think the menu guide needs to be updated. There haven't been any new features added on the steering wheel controls, so no point in re-uploading a new image with a different date written on it.
I still think .doc needs to be in the main post.
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So load new hex and up the lagfix to 80 and call it done?
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maybe i missed it, but is map8 (turbo bypass) still usable with the g5 ?
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Default 10-23-2012, 01:17 PM

Terry, in the new "G" firmware (thanks for the update) it states the default value is at 80 like previous JB4 settings, is it still stronger? I ran 100 when default was at 80 on the older G4 board is this similar? On the "F" version it was defaulted at 60 and I ran 80 so should I just raise the lagfix by 20 (80 to 100) to get he same response?


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Default 10-23-2012, 01:35 PM

If you have 60 on your ISO currently, going to 80 will give you the same effect after uploading the G firmware.

Prior to ISO (e.g. on integrated) your "lagfix" was produced by the DME duty cycle at cruise plus the JB4 offset. And the integrated algorithm was completely different. So there is no direct comparison to how things were with integrated control. It would vary by DME version and JB4 setting.


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Default 10-23-2012, 01:38 PM

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If you have 60 on your ISO currently, going to 80 will give you the same effect after uploading the G firmware.

Prior to ISO the lagfix was produced by the DME + the JB4 so different values led to different positions for each car based on their DME version.
i see...so if I have 80 on my ISO now then 100 is what I will need?


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I still think .doc needs to be in the main post.
Max,
If you go back to page one, there are several .jpg pages that explain all the settings. I would NEVER hope for a .doc
I grab the .jpgs and make a very nice .pdf out of it. Works on my Notebook and my phone that way. .doc has outlived it's usefulness.


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