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Default Boost dips, trims bottom out - 10-04-2019, 07:44 AM

So Iím currently having issues of trims bottoming our and a dip in boost, quite annoying, I had it turned way up thought turning boost down would help but doesnít seem to help others then itís not triggering safety 5 and map 4.

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Default 10-04-2019, 12:06 PM

Higher boost at 28psi same result
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Default 10-05-2019, 06:15 AM

You have a 20 in your DB settings at 6000. You need to do more DB tuning also.
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Default 10-05-2019, 08:04 AM

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You have a 20 in your DB settings at 6000. You need to do more DB tuning also.
Wow yeah did even see that 20, Iíll fix that. Probably raise duty bias a bit from 5000 up, maybe 60? What do you think? Also put a small number in my shift redux


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Default 10-06-2019, 10:19 PM

I’d set to 50 across board & see how it changes from the 20


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Default 10-07-2019, 08:21 AM

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I’d set to 50 across board & see how it changes from the 20
This is at the strip yesterday, some map 3 and some map 6, on the way to the strip I could hit 28, at the track couldn’t hit over 24
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Default 10-11-2019, 02:19 PM

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Iíd set to 50 across board & see how it changes from the 20
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Default 10-12-2019, 06:46 AM

You only go WOT for a few RPM in the 1st log, the other 2 no WOT / so provide 0 data

Relog 3rd gear 2k to redline


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Default 10-12-2019, 07:58 AM

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You only go WOT for a few RPM in the 1st log, the other 2 no WOT / so provide 0 data

Relog 3rd gear 2k to redline
Sorry for wasting peoples time with those ones. Just started using the auto log function and the files browser must have posted the wrong files. Here are some single gear pulls. Iíll get multi gear pulls today at the 1/4 mile.

Hard to get a good pull around here before midnight, everyone drives slow as hell and blocks all lanes. More conducive roads are monitored.
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Default 10-12-2019, 11:51 AM

2 more longer pulls, one trips the trims again
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Log 12.1@119
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Default 10-12-2019, 04:07 PM

Couple things to note:

FF - is maxed & WGDC is very high up top- do you have FF adapation disabled in your FUD settings?


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Couple things to note:

FF - is maxed & WGDC is very high up top- do you have FF adapation disabled in your FUD settings?
No I do not.

blew up my transfercase on the final run Iím sure the log is useless
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Default 10-12-2019, 07:23 PM

Get the t case replaced & I can help you dial this in.

Glad you are at least going to the track with your car- love seeing guys getting real world results


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Get the t case replaced & I can help you dial this in.

Glad you are at least going to the track with your car- love seeing guys getting real world results
Should be long, turns out it was the front differential, replace the worm gear of the torque motor for the tcase as well. Just need to reset the ECUs and add a little tcase fluid
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Default 11-09-2019, 09:45 AM

Dang I guess the sticks are a lot harder on the front diffs than auto. I assume it broke in first gear but you stayed on it?
I had my front diff out and it's not a easy task!
To me it looks like you have a decent boost leak or more likely a vacuum leak/bad or tired solenoid that is maxing out your WG duty cycle. I bought one new vacuum solenoid and it brought my ff down by 20.


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Default 11-09-2019, 01:34 PM

I went thru 2 front diffs myself when I had hybrids


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I went thru 2 front diffs myself when I had hybrids
What kind of 60' were you getting? I run 5 year old 18" Falcon Eurowinters (hard tread blocks) which is probably the only thing saving the front diff lol.


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Default 11-10-2019, 02:43 PM

Rb 2s- 15t wheel- 1.5-1.6

Pure 2 hi flo- 1.7-1.8

Single 6062- 2.0+ lol

Blew both diffs with the 15t stuff


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Default 12-03-2019, 11:14 AM

Had to of had water in the fuel had misfires on cylinder 3, ran it to empty then went out of town for thanks giving, finally got new E85 in it, here are a couple logs
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Default 12-03-2019, 11:17 AM

With larger turbos run the default hybrid settings... Disable RPM FF bias under options/FUD, and add the slow ramp up duty bias in the hybrid thread.


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Default 12-04-2019, 10:36 PM

Made the changes, had it over boost quite a few times

The new t case settings are wicked, even with 20% (sport) forward I’m spinning like crazy in 3rd on a 40 roll

Here is the hybrid settings I used https://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33200
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Default 12-04-2019, 11:54 PM

Let’s get boost under control

Lower FF manually- lets try 60

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Default 12-05-2019, 07:00 PM

Map 2, FF was 140 before these, now 60
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