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Default 11-27-2019, 08:22 PM

thanks for fast transaction, it arrived and im in the process of installing could you please tell what the dial settings are roughly, as there is no distinguishable marks to set them thanks,
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Default 12-22-2019, 11:53 PM

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New BMS product in testing phases now, a stand alone universal style fuel pump controller that can run your 2nd (and maybe 3rd) fuel pump.

Installation is really easy. Just give it 12v, ground, it has an output wire to power up your fuel pump, and finally a voltage input for the trigger which you can attach to your map sensor. Inside the box there are two dials, turn on (30% min dutycycle), and max flow (100% dutycycle), so you can set when the pump starts and when it goes max flow, relative to the input voltage or engine boost.

We're also evaluating having the trigger wire read dutycycle so rather than running a wire to the front for boost you can have it trigger off the factory EKP dutycycle for a really clean/simple install. In this trim you could set the 2nd pump to turn on only when the first pump goes 100%.

Finally we should also be able to configure this in a "load balance" mode for those running a single pump but worried about burning out their factory EKP. In that implementation this will sit in parallel with the EKP splitting load to the pump so the EKP sees roughly the same current as a factory fuel pump. More testing required on this specific implementation but it seems promising.

Intro pricing will be around $200.
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Default 12-23-2019, 12:42 AM

Let me ask @payam



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Default 12-23-2019, 10:47 AM

Still have one test unit we need to get out in action, these initial units are setup for guys running 2 pumps and are having the EKP run the primary pump, and the FPC running the second as an alternative to a Hobbs switch.


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Default 12-23-2019, 05:18 PM

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Still have one test unit we need to get out in action, these initial units are setup for guys running 2 pumps and are having the EKP run the primary pump, and the FPC running the second as an alternative to a Hobbs switch.
How about the load balancing solution where it supplements the current?

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Finally we should also be able to configure this in a "load balance" mode for those running a single pump but worried about burning out their factory EKP. In that implementation this will sit in parallel with the EKP splitting load to the pump so the EKP sees roughly the same current as a factory fuel pump. More testing required on this specific implementation but it seems promising.


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Default 12-31-2019, 04:06 PM

I have a bmw 535xi e60 2008 automatic transmission and I need to install the 2step relay I want you to send me the tutorial how to do it please
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I have a bmw 535xi e60 2008 automatic transmission and I need to install the 2step relay I want you to send me the tutorial how to do it please
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...9GwoOI89v_JNdR


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Oh man, how did I just find this now? I just bought a used fuel-it stage 2, a replacement ekpm3 to step up my 07's likley ekpm2, and a k-dcan to code the new ekpm.

If this proves to improve reliability I'll have to grab this.


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Default 01-07-2020, 05:48 PM

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How about the load balancing solution where it supplements the current?
I have not programmed that yet... First want to ensure the hardware is solid for running a 2nd pump as a stand alone off TMAP voltage as that is the largest market for us IMHO.

Still looking for one last test candidate for the last beta system in stock! Everyone who contacts us won't be installing until spring lol..


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Default 01-07-2020, 09:11 PM

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I have not programmed that yet... First want to ensure the hardware is solid for running a 2nd pump as a stand alone off TMAP voltage as that is the largest market for us IMHO.

Still looking for one last test candidate for the last beta system in stock! Everyone who contacts us won't be installing until spring lol..
But there is also a huge market in the F/G series community now that direct injection pumps are becoming extremely popular meaning that only a stage 2 (walboro 450) LPFP is needed to push up to 700 whp on E85. So essential those guys that only use 1 pump need a solution as well since EKP's keep failing due to the single pump drawing so much current and a step up to a dual pump setup is significantly more expensive than a single pump, so users tend to chose either a large single pump + the upgraded BPM4 EKP that is fully ecu controlled and can handle 3 pumps, or a dual pump and cheapo hobs switch.

So what I am saying is the BMS fuel pump controller will have no chance in the F/G series community unless it can do load balancing along with running off TMAP voltage to power two pumps.

Just food for thought but this is honestly how I see it playing out.


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Default 01-08-2020, 09:54 AM

Yes no doubt that is a good market for it. But the FPC is not platform specific, it's compatible with every vehicle in the world.


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Default 01-08-2020, 12:37 PM

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Yes no doubt that is a good market for it. But the FPC is not platform specific, it's compatible with every vehicle in the world.
Even better! But most cars with dual lpfps have ecus that can control both with power coming directly off of the battery.

If you got the power distribution down it would be huge in the F series, G series, and supra world where bms is a huge name.


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Default 01-08-2020, 02:38 PM

Most cars have similar issues to the BMWs... Add a 2nd pump, EKP can't provide enough current to run it, people have to resort to Hobbs switches to run them. In fact we initially designed this for the Q50/Q60 which has an immediate need for running 2nd pumps in a smarter than Hobbs switch way.

The current balance application is going to be great though. We still initially want customers who can test the 2nd pump control as that is a more grueling test environment and it's already coded up.


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Default 01-15-2020, 07:21 AM

Any chance I could get one of these sent to Australia?


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Default 01-15-2020, 11:58 AM

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Any chance I could get one of these sent to Australia?
Email Terry for faster response.

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Can this be used as a trigger for a Vargas Double Barrel kit to in place of the Split Second controller used for the second HPFP?


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Default 01-16-2020, 09:48 AM

Sure I don't see why not.


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Sure I don't see why not.
And exactly how would that take place?


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And exactly how would that take place?
We'd need someone with a Vargas kit to install it and evaluate.


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Default 01-27-2020, 11:24 PM

Any eta?

Will this help an ekpm2 run a fuel-it stage 2 bucketed?


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Made a minor change to add larger dials so waiting on more BETA units. Slow process but we're going as fast as we can.


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I'm keen on beta testing

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Any updates on this?
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Default 04-02-2020, 06:22 AM

You said drive a 2nd pump, does this include the inline fuel it s1 pump?


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You said drive a 2nd pump, does this include the inline fuel it s1 pump?
No, that runs off standard wiring.


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