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Default BMS Fuel Pump Controller - 11-02-2019, 09:19 AM

New BMS product in testing phases now, a stand alone universal style fuel pump controller that can run your 2nd (and maybe 3rd) fuel pump.

Installation is really easy. Just give it 12v, ground, it has an output wire to power up your fuel pump, and finally a voltage input for the trigger which you can attach to your map sensor. Inside the box there are two dials, turn on (30% min dutycycle), and max flow (100% dutycycle), so you can set when the pump starts and when it goes max flow, relative to the input voltage or engine boost.

We're also evaluating having the trigger wire read dutycycle so rather than running a wire to the front for boost you can have it trigger off the factory EKP dutycycle for a really clean/simple install. In this trim you could set the 2nd pump to turn on only when the first pump goes 100%.

Finally we should also be able to configure this in a "load balance" mode for those running a single pump but worried about burning out their factory EKP. In that implementation this will sit in parallel with the EKP splitting load to the pump so the EKP sees roughly the same current as a factory fuel pump. More testing required on this specific implementation but it seems promising.

Intro pricing will be around $200.
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Default 11-02-2019, 10:22 AM

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Default 11-02-2019, 01:02 PM

Great news! I'll definitely want this to supplement my stage 2 fuel pump.


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Default 11-03-2019, 12:02 AM

WOW BMS innovation keep pushing the envelope.I'm in for this
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Default 11-03-2019, 04:15 AM

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New BMS product in testing phases now, a stand alone universal style fuel pump controller that can run your 2nd (and maybe 3rd) fuel pump.

Installation is really easy. Just give it 12v, ground, it has an output wire to power up your fuel pump, and finally a voltage input for the trigger which you can attach to your map sensor. Inside the box there are two dials, turn on (30% min dutycycle), and max flow (100% dutycycle), so you can set when the pump starts and when it goes max flow, relative to the input voltage or engine boost.

We're also evaluating having the trigger wire read dutycycle so rather than running a wire to the front for boost you can have it trigger off the factory EKP dutycycle for a really clean/simple install. In this trim you could set the 2nd pump to turn on only when the first pump goes 100%.

Finally we should also be able to configure this in a "load balance" mode for those running a single pump but worried about burning out their factory EKP. In that implementation this will sit in parallel with the EKP splitting load to the pump so the EKP sees roughly the same current as a factory fuel pump. More testing required on this specific implementation but it seems promising.

Intro pricing will be around $200.
Very interesting! In single pump load splitting mode does the factory ekp and ECU control the lpfp completely? So in effect the BMW unit is just splitting power and nothing else?


Also does this hook up straight to the battery, and if so does it go to sleep to prevent battery drain? I mean you can have it mirror off of the factory EKP, if that goes off the bms unit goes into low power mode.


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Default 11-03-2019, 03:41 PM

If you were to use this to power a second pump, where’s the ground for the pump?
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Default 11-03-2019, 11:08 PM

Also where would this mount on an F series? Specifically the 2 series/m2


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Default 11-04-2019, 08:53 AM

Awesome! I will be following development closely.

I always wondered the possibility of a "large current transistor" using the EKP signal to run a seconday pump. Glad to see BMS continuing to develop solutions!


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Default 11-04-2019, 11:03 AM

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If you were to use this to power a second pump, where’s the ground for the pump?
Black wire goes to ground
Red wire goes to 12v (fuse inline amp depending on pump IIRC 25amp max)
Orange wire goes to Tmap 0-5v (trigger)
Yellow wire goes to Pump Positive
Pump Ground goes to battery or grounded to chassis.


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Default 11-04-2019, 11:59 AM

Would love to see a comparison log to the hobbs switch method. If you can make it so the pump doesn't fluctuate all over the place when the second pump comes on I'd say this is a huge winner


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Default 11-05-2019, 03:12 PM

I was thinking the same thing on the ground after I posted, and realized jb4 only has a power for a aux power.
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Default 11-06-2019, 01:27 AM

"2nd pump turn on only when the first pump goes dutycycle 100%"
in that scenario the first pump trim will drop then the 2nd pump will switch off.....!
How the 2nd pump will act, on off on off....?


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Default 11-12-2019, 02:44 PM

OK we beat the hell out of one of our test models the last week including 1/2 mile racing at NFZ and it's been working flawlessly. For the production runs we're going to move the pots on the board over a little so they are easier to reach. But other than that it's ready to go.

I've got 3x pre-production units we want to get out for some extended testing. Will do them for $100 each shipped but there are conditions. You have to be willing to install it ASAP and provide us a little feedback!
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Default 11-12-2019, 02:47 PM

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"2nd pump turn on only when the first pump goes dutycycle 100%"
in that scenario the first pump trim will drop then the 2nd pump will switch off.....!
How the 2nd pump will act, on off on off....?
It's dutycycle just like the factory EKP... So it allows you to run the pump at slower speeds if you want to avoid over heating it or adding more heat to the fuel by pushing it around the regulator.


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Finally we should also be able to configure this in a "load balance" mode for those running a single pump but worried about burning out their factory EKP. In that implementation this will sit in parallel with the EKP splitting load to the pump so the EKP sees roughly the same current as a factory fuel pump. More testing required on this specific implementation but it seems promising.
Any updates on this function?


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Default 11-12-2019, 05:54 PM

Terry, just emailed you. DEFINITELY interested, if you've got units to spare. Thanks!
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Terry i m want one please
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Default 11-15-2019, 06:59 AM

will this work along side with the a PI kit with hobbs switch and split second aic6 for mhd?
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will this work along side with the a PI kit with hobbs switch and split second aic6 for mhd?
Yes, it will go in place of the hobbs switch basically.


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Are there any of the 3 left for sale? Can I please purchase PayPal? Thanks for the reply
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Default 11-15-2019, 01:45 PM

I'll wait for a tested production unit. And car is still being built so I can't do anything right now neways.

But I'll be in the market for one probably.


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Default 11-21-2019, 01:50 PM

One more pre-production unit we want to get out to an E90 N54 or N55!


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Default 11-25-2019, 01:28 PM

How I would love to help you, if there was not winter knocking on doors in Europe :-/ But definitely interested in the final product! With my LPFP collapsing to 40 in hot weather.. LOL.


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