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Cool *NEW* hybrid turbo stage 3 kit – MM Performance Parts - 02-22-2015, 09:49 PM

*NEW* hybrid turbo stage 3 kit – MM Performance Parts

Hello everyone. I’ve been working on a project for the N54 community for a couple months but had not announced it since I wanted to be sure the concept was feasible. I have done enough now to know the concept is good so ready to share my R&D progress with the community.

Description

It is a TD04L-20T with true 20T native compressor housing. The 20T mistubishi profile compressor wheel is a forged billet wheel with extended tip technology from BorgWarner. The Turbo consist of a TD04 bearing housing modified to connect to stock oil lines, coolant lines and stock turbine housing. The turbine housing has been modified to accept the TD04L turbine and flange up to the TD04 bearing housing. The kit will include upgraded inlet pipe system and also charge pipe system optimized for the high flowing native 20T compressor housing which is over twice the size/flow of stock compressor housing. This will make sure the turbos are flowing to their maximum potential along with the upgraded plumbing for the turbo included. This turbo can push up to 35psi of boost and not sure what the actual WHP will be on the N54, but with proper fueling and meth cooling should be in the 750whp range theoretically at those boost levels near redline according to estimated compressor map and turbo HP calcs, only testing will prove if this is possible and I intend to test the prototypes to these levels.

Schedule

Current schedule is to finish development of the prototype set by the end of April/ear;y May and install on my car and test and tune/dyno and then get them on 2-3 beta testers cars by April or May. If all goes well, start selling the kits to you all in the summer. I have completed my test fit on an N54 motor and finalized the designs for the wastegate actuator mounting and modifications and charge pipe (turbo to IC) design as well as making sure everything is going to fit on the engine. Everything went perfect on the fitup of the turbo to the engine so that’s when I decided it was time to start sharing R&D progress with the N54 community.

Pricing

Don’t have my final production pricing yet price point will be $3050 for both turbos, $450 for the basic inlet kit and $500 for the charge ***** from turbo to intercooler. If you already own my inlet pipe system, obviously no need to buy that. Only thing needed to adapt my inlet pipe system to the new turbos is two new elbows and everything else works

Testing

On my prototype system I plan to do dyno test and tune and push them to the maximum as I will have all the supporting fuel mods needed. I will be doing full logging of course. In addition, I will be doing custom turbo logging never before seen on the N54. Not only will I be logging EGT and backpressure (done before) to check health of the turbine but also I will log pressure and temperature at the turbo inlet and also at the turbo outlet which will tell me exactly what pressure ratios the turbo is working at and also at what efficiency. This compressor logging has never been done to my knowledge on the N54 but is the only real way to understand the compressor health during turbo operation.

Quality

The turbos are purchased from a large turbo supplier. I bought the CHRA from them to my specs which were basically TD04 bearing housing with 04L turbine and 20T billet 6x6 compressor wheel with extended tip technology from BorgWarner (for more boost). I also ordered the CHRA with upgraded thrust bearing, actually the highest upgrade possible, steel thrust bearing mitsubishi uses in the rally turbo cars where turbos REALLY get beat on and need bullet proof bearings. The compressor housing is the native 20T housing (over 2x more flow area) for TD04 and the entire CHRA is assembled and balanced by the manufacturer on a VSR machine they have in house and individual report provided for confirmation. I get the turbine housing machined at a CNC machine shop locally that deals with very high tolerance precision drilling tool parts and I assemble the CHRA to the turbine housing and wastegates "in my garage" and bench test wastegates on the turbos to ensure proper settings. Important to note the machine shop I use because I have been to several turbo shops locally and the machining they do is a joke compared to high end CNC shops in Houston like I am using.

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Now some pics to show you some progress
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Wow looking good!


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Very interesting. Eagerly waiting to see how these perform.


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Subscribed.

Its awesome to finally see more options for upgraded snails, rather then everyone switching to single.

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Wow... Taking the bull by the horns... Nice...
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NICE! Looking fwd to seeing what wedge/BQ can do with those monsters!
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Need a beta tester? :p
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as with all post about upgrades, posting interest for RHD
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as with all post about upgrades, posting interest for RHD
Rear turbo looks like the pipework may need some attention but I can't see why it can't be made to work.
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Necessity is the mother of invention. Good luck in brining more HP options for this great platform.
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I'm going ST w/ an EFR, but still want to sub here to see where this goes. The upgraded WG is a very good idea, I'd take Rob's advice there.
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Sub'd, wish my car was not automatic


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Sub'd, wish my car was not automatic
My car is automatic and that aint stopping me
Also a buddy of mine here in Houston is doing a 900+whp build with an automatic (level 10 upgrade) with a PT 6766 single setup so if he can get it done, no problem for power at these hybrid turbo power levels.


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Default 02-23-2015, 09:41 AM

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as with all post about upgrades, posting interest for RHD
If we can get the inlet pipe kit to work, should not be a problem. working with a guy in the UK to try and get this sorted.


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Default 02-23-2015, 10:50 AM

As always... will this fit the e60 xi?


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Default 02-23-2015, 11:35 AM

I was going to PM you about this since I was following you on some of the initial questions you had in the past. Some of the pictures were very similar to some I took of mine as well. I wasn't sure if you were just building a one-off for your own. I'm glad to see that you are contributing to the community. I wish you the best and I hope to see some people jump on it and get them installed.

I am also glad to see that you were able to clear the rear turbo compressor housing. I had not gotten that far, and it already looks as if it is successful. I will be checking in time to time as this gets updated.

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Default 02-23-2015, 11:54 AM

Thanks man. I think there is one other person doing custom hybrids also (threethirtyfive). Initially I was just doing the project for myself but I enjoy it so much and saw that I could offer a good price point, I figured I would offer it up to anyone who wants it to help out the community


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Default 02-23-2015, 11:56 AM

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As always... will this fit the e60 xi?
Tough to say man, in time will work on this option with one of you guys in the UK. With all the XI stuff right around the turbos, going to be tough to make it all fit but I need to see one in person.


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Looks good so far, lots of stuff you are not addressing, but if you can offer them cheap enough maybe people will not mind. Looking forward to results.


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Lots of stuff you are not addressing

Can you elaborate? Not everyone understands Turbo-101... (no pun intended)
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Can you elaborate? Not everyone understands Turbo-101... (no pun intended)
Not really, would prefer to just watch, and see how things progress.


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Not really, would prefer to just watch, and see how things progress.
then why say anything?


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then why say anything?
Because he was referenced by the OP...

Tony, good job taking the high road on this one after some blatant strikes at your product by the OP. I was expecting you to blow up haha... PM me so we can setup a time for me to come see the new shop.


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