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Default EWG and Catted ***** - 03-11-2020, 08:12 PM

I have Z1 catted ***** coming and already received a *** back exhaust. I also received the EWG harness this week. Will the current FW control boost spikes caused by decrease in back pressure?

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Default 03-12-2020, 05:42 AM

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Question on the max boost per gear -

Itís set to 0 by default (disabled). If I set it to 1, is that similar to the way map 6 user adjustment works (+1 PSI over stock)?

Iím currently on map 6 ranging from +2-4 PSI (2-5k RPM) and would like my first gear to just be stock boost (or even just +1 PSI over stock, max) since itís a useless gear in my RWD RS400. What do you recommend I set the Max Boost 1st value to?

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No sir. Max boost means whatever value you put in that section, it decreases boost by that amount. For example, if you put a 3 in that field for 1st gear, and at 3000 RPM in your Map6 you have +3, you would now be at stock boost (+0) in 1st gear at 3000 RPM


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No sir. Max boost means whatever value you put in that section, it decreases boost by that amount. For example, if you put a 3 in that field for 1st gear, and at 3000 RPM in your Map6 you have +3, you would now be at stock boost (+0) in 1st gear at 3000 RPM
To clarify, what happens at other RPMs?

My map 6 is below. Based on your explanation, if I put "4" in "max boost 1st", I will be at stock boost (+0) at 3500-4500 RPM, but what would I be at in other RPMs? Would it go negative at 2-3k & 5-5.5k so I would be boosting less than stock?

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2000: +2.0
2500: +3.0
3000: +3.0
3500: +4.0
4000: +4.0
4500: +4.0
5000: +3.0
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Ordered my BMS EWG wires
Definitely will be interested to hear how they work with a WMI setup !!


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Definitely will be interested to hear how they work with a WMI setup !!
Thnx, its still not clear to be if I just update to firmware 8 and set the settings per the Stinger thread or if its not actual available yet in V8 that is readily accessible. When I read the below, it sounds like the feature is not available:

5) Enabled additional inputs/outputs for upcoming electronic wastegate (EWG) control.

6) Enabled boost control PID for upcoming EWG control


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Default Thoughts - 03-12-2020, 07:23 PM

Here is a log of map 6 on a RS with 93 octane. Everything look alright?
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Default No Throttle Response, Check Engine Light, Traction light and Malfunction Warnings - 03-15-2020, 12:38 PM

Team - I just purchased and installed JB4 w/Bluetooth and Fuel Wires. Having issues with Zero Throttle Response, Check Engine Light, Traction Light and 2 malfunction indications. I've emailed the support team with a word document that has steps to recreate issues and events with logs embeded.

Vehicle: 2019 Q50 Red Sport AWD

Modification: Muffler Delete

Indications: Traction Light, Forward Emergency Assist Braking Malfunction, Blind Spot Assist Malfunction, No Throttle Response. Idles high ~1,800, can idle to 7~10mph. Issue occurs even in Map0.

Codes: P2138, P2200, P0000

Steps taken so far based on researching forum:
- Upgraded JB4 Mobile app to Beta
- Upgraded firmware 50/7/5 to 50/8/5
- Checked all connections for moisture/bent pins/rubbing/exposed etc.
- Hugged my 98 Jeep TJ that has minimal electronics

I would expect I'll hear from support however I wanted to document the indications.

I am attaching a plain txt version of my word doc walk through and associated log files.

*UPDATE 15March 16:57pm CT* Support had me look at all the wires as the went into the back of the connectors. All were secure. I also checked to ensure all pins where in working order. No bends or issues with the pins. One item I did remediate was the blue wire from the bluetooth kit had crushed at the module housing. The wire was intact but bare wire exposed. I wrapped and heat shrinked the exposure then ensure it did not crush again upon module assembly.

*UPDATE 15March 20:00pm CT* Test drove for an hour and no further complications.


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Default Logs with EWG - 03-15-2020, 07:21 PM

Attached is a combined log from a few runs today using EWG plugs, looking at the graph of the launches from 1st gear I noticed that the throttle goes down even though the pedal is all the way down. The throttle goes back up after shifting to 2nd. The Fp_h and Fp_l also go down with the throttle.The car does this each time I launch. I can feel the hesitation. Is this because I'm asking for to much boost in 1st gear or at low RPMs?

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Default 03-15-2020, 07:47 PM

I just wanted a headsup incase I should be aware of anything or any potential issues, but I'm installing lower down ***** on my 2017 Q50S (silver sport) next week. I also have the bms intake and rev9 axle back. Running a custom map 6. Car been running perfectly fine and amazing thus far, adding LDP shouldn't affect anything negatively would it?
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Default 03-16-2020, 04:11 AM

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Team - I just purchased and installed JB4 w/Bluetooth and Fuel Wires. Having issues with Zero Throttle Response, Check Engine Light, Traction Light and 2 malfunction indications. I've emailed the support team with a word document that has steps to recreate issues and events with logs embeded.

Vehicle: 2019 Q50 Red Sport AWD

Modification: Muffler Delete

Indications: Traction Light, Forward Emergency Assist Braking Malfunction, Blind Spot Assist Malfunction, No Throttle Response. Idles high ~1,800, can idle to 7~10mph. Issue occurs even in Map0.

Codes: P2138, P2200, P0000

Steps taken so far based on researching forum:
- Upgraded JB4 Mobile app to Beta
- Upgraded firmware 50/7/5 to 50/8/5
- Checked all connections for moisture/bent pins/rubbing/exposed etc.
- Hugged my 98 Jeep TJ that has minimal electronics

I would expect I'll hear from support however I wanted to document the indications.

I am attaching a plain txt version of my word doc walk through and associated log files.

*UPDATE 15March 16:57pm CT* Support had me look at all the wires as the went into the back of the connectors. All were secure. I also checked to ensure all pins where in working order. No bends or issues with the pins. One item I did remediate was the blue wire from the bluetooth kit had crushed at the module housing. The wire was intact but bare wire exposed. I wrapped and heat shrinked the exposure then ensure it did not crush again upon module assembly.

*UPDATE 15March 20:00pm CT* Test drove for an hour and no further complications.
This is likely due to a poor map harness connection or OBD2 to JB4 harness connection. Reseating and even adding some dielectric grease to the pins resolves this.


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Default 03-16-2020, 07:43 AM

Thank you Spider, Ando has been a help too via support email.

I will put dialectric grease on the connectors as well.

Now for the fun questions:
1. What are the main data points we are looking at in the data logs?
Assuming RPM, Boost, AFR and Ign1. What else?

2. [Moved to new thread]

3. The long term goal is discover how/what my car likes in order to build out a Map6 correct?


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Default 03-16-2020, 07:55 AM

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Thank you Spider, Ando has been a help too via support email.

I will put dialectric grease on the connectors as well.

Now for the fun questions:
1. What are the main data points we are looking at in the data logs?
Assuming RPM, Boost, AFR and Ign1. What else?

2. I've ran logs at Map0, Map1, Map2, Map3 and Map4. Can I get some feedback on these?

3. The long term goal is discover how/what my car likes in order to build out a Map6 correct?


Vehicle: 2019 Q50 Red Sport AWD, 93 Octane (Shell 93)
I would strongly suggest reading through this entire thread, even though its 200+ pages. There are many instances of what does/doesn't work and experiences based on mods. You are correct to monitor RPM, boost (both banks), AFR (both banks), Ignition. I also like to watch coolant, oil, and charge coolant temps. Hoping that at some point they'll get knock PID instead of having to monitor ignition for drops.


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Default Boost 1 & Boost 2 not always the same - 03-16-2020, 03:20 PM

I noticed a small .1 to .2 difference in boost vs boost two only under throttle up or down; when it's coasting or idling it's the same. Example if boost is at 1, boost two will be at .9 or .8 (again, only under throttle up or down) Curious if this is normal...?


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Default 03-16-2020, 03:25 PM

Yes you'll see small differences between both banks.


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Default 03-17-2020, 07:15 AM

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Yes you'll see small differences between both banks.
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Default 03-17-2020, 02:59 PM

How long are the EWG cables back ordered?


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I would strongly suggest reading through this entire thread, even though its 200+ pages.
^^^THIS^^^

I had a million questions but held off until I read through this entire thread. And wouldn't ya know it: No more questions.

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Here is a log of map 6 on a RS with 93 octane. Everything look alright?
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Default 03-18-2020, 07:25 AM

I'm a noob here but while we're waiting for someone with experience to answer, I took a stab at it and can say that it looks perfectly good to me: No timing events (except when you upshifted), the commanded boost, target boost, and JB4 boost perfectly mirror each other and your AFR leaned out as expected. I'm old school (was a mechanic in the late 1970s) and so have difficulty with spark advance values decreasing with RPM (vacuum and mechanical advances didn't to that), but your IGN map shows the perfect "dish" shape that they look for in these cars.

I graphed the 1st part from when you hit WOT to the first shift. I look forward to someone pointing out any mistakes in my evaluation: I'm learning

Anyway, it looks like you're getting the boost you asked for without any timing hits. I'd increase the Map 6 values and log again. I got my RS up to +6 with no timing hits on pump 94 octane.

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I'm a noob here but while we're waiting for someone with experience to answer, I took a stab at it and can say that it looks perfectly good to me: No timing events (except when you upshifted), the commanded boost, target boost, and JB4 boost perfectly mirror each other and your AFR leaned out as expected. I'm old school (was a mechanic in the late 1970s) and so have difficulty with spark advance values decreasing with RPM (vacuum and mechanical advances didn't to that), but your IGN map shows the perfect "dish" shape that they look for in these cars.

I graphed the 1st part from when you hit WOT to the first shift. I look forward to someone pointing out any mistakes in my evaluation: I'm learning

Anyway, it looks like you're getting the boost you asked for without any timing hits. I'd increase the Map 6 values and log again. I got my RS up to +6 with no timing hits on pump 94 octane.

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thanks for the Response! i felt like everything looked aright too though i would say im more of a noob than you, but what you said seems to be in line with what ive seen in the tread so far. while we wait on a response so we can learn together haha. thanks
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Default Map 2 - 2018 Luxe 3.0t AWD on 91 octane - 03-18-2020, 09:03 AM

Please review this log & graph of map 2 on 91 octane and let me know if OK to go to map 3. I don't have the fuel wires installed yet (dealer visit coming in early April so holding off for now). I think I heard some knock but not fully sure as I don't think I've ever hear knock before.
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Please review this log & graph of map 2 on 91 octane and let me know if OK to go to map 3. I don't have the fuel wires installed yet (dealer visit coming in early April so holding off for now). I think I heard some knock but not fully sure as I don't think I've ever hear knock before.
so from a noobs view. it looks like to much to me and i could be wrong so hope someone corrects me if i am, but typically you want the IGN to increase after you have reached max boot. yours starts to do this but some were from 5500 - 6200 rpm its pulling timing which to me signify potential Knock. again im a noob and would wait for someone else to comment too but seem to be to much boot for the gas your running at the higher rpm's..
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Default 03-18-2020, 09:53 AM

Thank you for your take on things. Curious if others can confirm?


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Confirmed, need higher octane before you can move up to the next map. Got any e85 around to throw a few gallons in the mix?


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