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Yeah every thing worked so no issues. I was just curious if the DME not compatible error I got several times is something others saw too or not or if I am just a unique snowflake So far so good, will log test soon. Thanks Terry!
Sounds good! I'm still not sure which cars exactly use PWG1 and PWG3. Seems most are PWG2.


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Default 03-19-2018, 09:01 PM

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Pricing model looks really reasonable too. For those with a JB4 you won't need to buy the map pack or logging, just the flashing license, as we'll be posting the back end flash maps themselves here free of charge for JB4 users.
Hi Terry! Would the Jb4 BEF be available for those running BM3 OTS maps?

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Default 03-20-2018, 09:38 AM

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thank you now we can load these BEF via Bm3
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Default 03-20-2018, 09:44 AM

now with BEF F Series E85 and 40% E85 .....11.26@124mph .... 0.2 to down before May 4...


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Default 03-20-2018, 11:54 AM

Terry I Want to Try your BEF And post some logs

Which PWG BEF should i use ? Pump ? Race ?


My Fuel : 98RON/93 OCtane

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Default 03-20-2018, 01:04 PM

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thank you now we can load these BEF via Bm3
I thought These BEF maps weren't capable with BM3.

@Terry can you confirm this?

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Default 03-20-2018, 01:32 PM

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Terry I Want to Try your BEF And post some logs

Which PWG BEF should i use ? Pump ? Race ?


My Fuel : 98RON/93 OCtane

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2011 F10 535i N55 PWG AT | JB4 ISO - Bluetooth.Rv3 | N20 3.5bar TMAP Sensor | TREBILA BEF Performance Tune | Pure Stage 2 Turbo | GFB DV+ | Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP | BMS 100% Meth-Dual CM7 Injection | 93 Octane Fuel | BMS Intake | ER 4" CLess D/Pipe | ER 3" Charge-Pipe | Wagner-Tuning Competition Intercooler |
I have absolutely no idea how BM3 works or how you'd use the MHD format back end flash maps we've posted with it. But, the maps are there so you're welcome to try. Once MHD posts the XDF files you'll be able to open/modify the BEF files and port them over to the interface of your choosing.


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Default 03-20-2018, 03:25 PM

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I have absolutely no idea how BM3 works or how you'd use the MHD format back end flash maps we've posted with it. But, the maps are there so you're welcome to try. Once MHD posts the XDF files you'll be able to open/modify the BEF files and port them over to the interface of your choosing.
I wasn't talking about BM3, the guy before me did.
I just wanted to know what is the best BEF for my case to be used and flashed with MHD flasher is it pump or race since i use meth & PS2

Which PWG BEF should i use ? Pump ? Race ?


My Fuel : 98RON/93 OCtane

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Default 03-20-2018, 08:07 PM

On the BM3 stuff no idea how it would or should work. You'd have to ask them.


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I thought adding the JB4 to the car made for adrenaline pumping drives, but the addition of F-series BEF options makes a huge difference for the butt dyno.

Many thanks to Terry and the BMS, as well as MHD, for the development efforts and always go above and beyond for customer service.
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Default 03-21-2018, 02:05 AM

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Terry I Want to Try your BEF And post some logs

Which PWG BEF should i use ? Pump ? Race ?


My Fuel : 98RON/93 OCtane

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MHD BEF Race it should work fine for 93 to 100 octane fuel.


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Default 03-21-2018, 02:08 AM

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MHD BEF Race it should work fine for 93 to 100 octane fuel.

I just downloaded the files and noticed that terry didnt make a pump version for the PWG - only race version is there.

So i guess i will try the race and post some logs.


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Default 03-21-2018, 02:25 AM

Hi Terry. A few more questions.
1) I understand JB4 piggy back's the ECU and tricks ECU to increase boost. What about with BEF? Does the JB4 continue to trick the ECU even with BEF?
2) If I decide JB4+BEF and I wish to turn off JB4 for whatever reasons, can I safely turn off the JB4 (map 0) with the BEF already flashed?
3) If I decide to flash MHD only, can I still use JB4 (map 4) for monitor parameters and logging purposes?
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Default 03-21-2018, 07:06 AM

Very happy with my bef MHD + jb4 on my n54 335xi

Now time for bef for my x3 n55 pwg (2013)

My mod... jb4, bms intake, meth kit and I run 94 oct + e99 pure... for e25 mix.

I want keep my jb4 and remove my speed limiter. It’s possible ?

I suppose I need the bef race version?

And I want to be sure I can remove my speed limiter on my x3...

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Default 03-21-2018, 10:15 AM

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I just downloaded the files and noticed that terry didnt make a pump version for the PWG - only race version is there.

So i guess i will try the race and post some logs.


Trying this on a 2011 F10 535i. Tried all the N55 PWG maps, and no dice. Probably haven't developed a map yet?
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Default 03-21-2018, 11:13 AM

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Very happy with my bef MHD + jb4 on my n54 335xi

Now time for bef for my x3 n55 pwg (2013)

My mod... jb4, bms intake, meth kit and I run 94 oct + e99 pure... for e25 mix.

I want keep my jb4 and remove my speed limiter. Itís possible ?

I suppose I need the bef race version?

And I want to be sure I can remove my speed limiter on my x3...

Thanks
Help please. Thanks


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Default 03-21-2018, 11:23 AM

On the speed limiter if its not removed already it will be within the MHD app in the future. Load RACE file and evaluate.


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Default 03-21-2018, 11:57 AM

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On the speed limiter if its not removed already it will be within the MHD app in the future. Load RACE file and evaluate.
Ok thanks... because %50 of why I want bef on my x3...itís for remove my speed limiter


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Default 03-22-2018, 08:49 AM

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Hi Terry. A few more questions.
1) I understand JB4 piggy back's the ECU and tricks ECU to increase boost. What about with BEF? Does the JB4 continue to trick the ECU even with BEF?
2) If I decide JB4+BEF and I wish to turn off JB4 for whatever reasons, can I safely turn off the JB4 (map 0) with the BEF already flashed?
3) If I decide to flash MHD only, can I still use JB4 (map 4) for monitor parameters and logging purposes?
Thanks!
I actually have the same question!
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Default 03-22-2018, 09:04 AM

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Hi Terry. A few more questions.
1) I understand JB4 piggy back's the ECU and tricks ECU to increase boost. What about with BEF? Does the JB4 continue to trick the ECU even with BEF?
2) If I decide JB4+BEF and I wish to turn off JB4 for whatever reasons, can I safely turn off the JB4 (map 0) with the BEF already flashed?
3) If I decide to flash MHD only, can I still use JB4 (map 4) for monitor parameters and logging purposes?

I actually have the same question!
Thanks!
1) The BEF maps let us adjust various tables directly to best take advantage of tuning strategies and mapping that is not currently possible to do JB4 only or flash only.
2) You can safely run the BEF maps alone although they are not programmed or intended to be used that way. In some situations it may work fine. In others you may wind up with tuning problems. In all cases you'll be slower than with the JB4 enabled.
3) Sure.


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Default 03-22-2018, 09:25 AM

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3) If I decide to flash MHD only, can I still use JB4 (map 4) for monitor parameters and logging purposes?
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3) Sure.


Terry I remember you told me that if you were
EWG you can use ( JB4 in Map4 ) + MHD OTS
But in PWG it's a different storey. And its better not to do it.

Am i Right ?? Or you can use JB4 + MHD OTS in any Car ??


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Default 03-22-2018, 06:20 PM

jb4 + BEF is the best thing, my car fully stock only jb4 & BEF running map1

the car just keep pulling, check the log, long pull 60mph to 165mph

the BEF is no joke, my car 335i EWG feel like 16psi on jb4 only!

good job Terry
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Looks good for map1!


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Default 03-23-2018, 08:57 AM

So I finally got around to flashing and doing a log. I reset my map 6 to a flat boost at 20psi, reset fuel and duty bias to 50. Log looks ok to me, HPFP is dipping, probably need to back off the E a bit. Fuel-it sensor says E73, I usually run E65, but I wasnt paying attention at the pump and went over a little. Tanks almost empty, so Ill adjust that. Besides the HPFP and the trims taking a dive midrange(just need some afrbias tuning), do you see anything else of concern before I turn the boost up some more?

F30 EWG, PS2, PI, and every supporting mod. Running EWG E85 BEF.
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Default 03-23-2018, 09:07 AM

Looks good overall. But, change open loop to 0 to get fuel trims up.
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