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I think I have that picture. I'm open to any and all suggestions.
do u have pics of ur EWG on the turbo?
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Default 07-25-2018, 03:24 PM

I think the actuator is around $500 dollars, so I would be pretty skeptical to replace it too, but honestly I think that may be the culprit.

This sounds like what mine was doing. When we ran the test plan, the actuator would move and adjust like it was supposed to and get in to spec. We would put the car back together, drive it, and the fault would return. Ran test plan again and the actuator was out spec again. I think the motor just was fading and not holding the added boost from the PS2 and eventually failed, or would have failed completely had I not changed it.

I talked to my friend at the dealer today and he agrees it sounds like the actuator. Of course, it could be something is installed wrong. Before I went and spent money on parts, I would double check the install of the actuator and if the arm is able to move freely with the actuator disconnected.
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Default 08-03-2018, 10:59 AM

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do u have pics of ur EWG on the turbo?
How's this for a picture? Notice anything missing???
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I think the actuator is around $500 dollars, so I would be pretty skeptical to replace it too, but honestly I think that may be the culprit.

This sounds like what mine was doing. When we ran the test plan, the actuator would move and adjust like it was supposed to and get in to spec. We would put the car back together, drive it, and the fault would return. Ran test plan again and the actuator was out spec again. I think the motor just was fading and not holding the added boost from the PS2 and eventually failed, or would have failed completely had I not changed it.

I talked to my friend at the dealer today and he agrees it sounds like the actuator. Of course, it could be something is installed wrong. Before I went and spent money on parts, I would double check the install of the actuator and if the arm is able to move freely with the actuator disconnected.
I had already purchased a new actuator from BMW for $375. That was an expensive thing to "rule-out."


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Default 08-03-2018, 11:17 AM

So long story short, I got under the car last night and the rod was completely disconnected from the flapper and the nuts were gone. After speaking with the tech who worked on the car and Jeff from Speedtech, we determined the rod was too short and there wasn't enough thread engagement for proper travel.

This makes sense since my original codes were for Wastegate Start Position not found, and now it's Wastegate Closed Position not found. Jeff is mailing me a longer rod and new nuts. As soon as I get that I will be swapping and adjusting myself. I plan on pulling the ******** off as well to confirm where the flapper sits.


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Default 08-03-2018, 11:23 AM

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How's this for a picture? Notice anything missing???
not clear at all, i can't see where's the EWG and the actuater
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Default 08-03-2018, 12:09 PM

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not clear at all, i can't see where's the EWG and the actuater
The rod is just sitting off to the side, not connected to the adapter block on the flapper.
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Default 08-03-2018, 12:16 PM

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The rod is just sitting off to the side, not connected to the adapter block on the flapper.
Damn, well I'm glad you found it, makes sense though.


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The rod is just sitting off to the side, not connected to the adapter block on the flapper.
the end should be like this. first the WG flap fully closed the the end like the pic on fully closed WG

in ur pic u should let the end of the rod same the end of the small ring, check my pic

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Default 08-03-2018, 03:08 PM

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Before I went and spent money on parts, I would double check the install of the actuator and if the arm is able to move freely with the actuator disconnected.
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I had already purchased a new actuator from BMW for $375. That was an expensive thing to "rule-out."
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So long story short, I got under the car last night and the rod was completely disconnected from the flapper and the nuts were gone.
I didnt want you to spend money, just a suggestion of what could be wrong, and what I went through. Seems you found the issue though.
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Default 08-06-2018, 12:04 PM

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I didnt want you to spend money, just a suggestion of what could be wrong, and what I went through. Seems you found the issue though.
I had already purchased it before your post. It was part of my process of elimination.


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Default 08-06-2018, 02:55 PM

Aww damn, I would think your installer would see that issue?!


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So I finally fixed it. I didn't end up needing a longer rod. Turns out, key-off the wastegate flapper is only like 3-4mm open. I started with key-on voltage around 3.9v. At one point I got it down to 1.4v. So I shortened it some more and it jumped back to 3v key-on and the wastegate never even opened. It's amazing how sensitive this thing it.

So I've been running map 7 on E50 for now and all I can say is this thing RIPS! Once I get my new Rev3 installed I'll start doing some real tuning at higher boost.


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So I finally fixed it. I didn't end up needing a longer rod. Turns out, key-off the wastegate flapper is only like 3-4mm open. I started with key-on voltage around 3.9v. At one point I got it down to 1.4v. So I shortened it some more and it jumped back to 3v key-on and the wastegate never even opened. It's amazing how sensitive this thing it.

So I've been running map 7 on E50 for now and all I can say is this thing RIPS! Once I get my new Rev3 installed I'll start doing some real tuning at higher boost.
Finally , easy to control boost on EWG

try map6 23psi
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Finally , easy to control boost on EWG

try map6 23psi
Iím ecstatic! Iím still getting chargepipe pressure too low, even after Terryís fix.


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Iím ecstatic! Iím still getting chargepipe pressure too low, even after Terryís fix.
check ur cp maybe leak or crack, post a log

boost lower than expected code is normal at low rpm, u see this code?
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check ur cp maybe leak or crack, post a log

boost lower than expected code is normal at low rpm, u see this code?
Need to be able to log first. Chargepipe is VRSF. Jeff said the code is expected, but I thought I removed it in the BEF. And yes, itís always at low rpm.


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Default 08-20-2018, 09:24 PM

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check ur cp maybe leak or crack, post a log

boost lower than expected code is normal at low rpm, u see this code?
I meant to say charge-air pressure, not chargepipe.


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Default 08-20-2018, 09:50 PM

Glad you got that fixed man!! I'm sure you'll be able to fix that, it should be simple!


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Default 08-21-2018, 07:14 AM

u can go WOT no prblem, log on map6 15psi
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u can go WOT no prblem, log on map6 15psi
WOT is no issue. It's every once and a while when I lightly tap the throttle I get the code.


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WOT is no issue. It's every once and a while when I lightly tap the throttle I get the code.
normal keep the code so no need to see drivetrain on screen everytime,

this code disappear only when when i run BM3, completely no codes, but MHD works better with jb4

ill reinstall my kit efr8374 this week RWD 335i EWG
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normal keep the code so no need to see drivetrain on screen everytime,

this code disappear only when when i run BM3, completely no codes, but MHD works better with jb4

ill reinstall my kit efr8374 this week RWD 335i EWG
It was really annoying before installing the Rev3. I would have to restart the car each time.

Going to log 23psi on my drive home from work tonight. E50 in the tank.


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Installed the 3.5bar sensor today. Running Map 6 with flat boost setting at 23psi. Pulls hard as hell. Trims are pretty high from 3000 to 4500rpm. Should I increase the PI fuel bias? Also, does anyone know what "Boost2" is?
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Installed the 3.5bar sensor today. Running Map 6 with flat boost setting at 23psi. Pulls hard as hell. Trims are pretty high from 3000 to 4500rpm. Should I increase the PI fuel bias? Also, does anyone know what "Boost2" is?
Raise fuel bias to 65 and raise duty cycle by another +10 across the board and raise FF by 10. Log is looking good though.
Boost 2 is intake manifold boost.
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