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Default The best s63tu oil for tuned applications - 02-04-2018, 04:24 AM

Changing my oil next week and i always use bmws oil but i have been unfortunate enough to have lost an s63tu engine due to a spun shell (only had car few weeks and believe previous owner abused) this coupled with the fact the older m engines are prone to excessive crank bearing wear makes me want to use the best oil. I change my oil every 4-5k so i do not need longlife. At the moment i am aining towards motul 300v but unsure of what weight to go for as i do not understand which suits our engines best. Looking for advice from those that do oil samples or have knowledge on the subject. Thanks (btw i am aware theres tons of information on oil out there but little is backed up and tends to be more i use castrol because its good and i was told to)


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Default 02-04-2018, 08:16 AM

Suggest you go for a slightly thicker oil than what BMW suggests. 5/40 or 10/60.
Depends on bearing clearances etc but BMW generally tends to go tight from the factory so that merits 5/30.... I suppose if you change
frequently enough it should be fine.
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Default 02-04-2018, 08:19 AM

Mind if i ask what you was using when was on stock block?


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Default 02-04-2018, 08:23 AM

I went with stock weight and changed every 3K. Now I am on 10/60 but that’s intentional given we have accurate measurements on all clearances etc.
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Default 02-04-2018, 12:22 PM

Valvoline VR1 Racing 10W-60 Semi Synthetic Oil


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Default 02-04-2018, 12:27 PM

If you're under warranty stick to OEM and buy direct from BMW. If you're not under warranty, get some warranty and stick to OEM.


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Changing my oil next week and i always use bmws oil but i have been unfortunate enough to have lost an s63tu engine due to a spun shell (only had car few weeks and believe previous owner abused) this coupled with the fact the older m engines are prone to excessive crank bearing wear makes me want to use the best oil. I change my oil every 4-5k so i do not need longlife. At the moment i am aining towards motul 300v but unsure of what weight to go for as i do not understand which suits our engines best. Looking for advice from those that do oil samples or have knowledge on the subject. Thanks (btw i am aware theres tons of information on oil out there but little is backed up and tends to be more i use castrol because its good and i was told to)
Did plenty of oil analysis on different oils and been using Total oils for many years....I use Total 5w40 on the F10 M5


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Thanks guys, i take it 0-30 is just too thin?


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Thanks guys, i take it 0-30 is just too thin?
Ya....car calls for 5w30 or 5w40 in warmer climates


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Valvoline VR1 Racing 10W-60 Semi Synthetic Oil
why semi synthetic?


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why semi synthetic?
Because race kar


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Default oil - 02-16-2018, 04:03 AM

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Did plenty of oil analysis on different oils and been using Total oils for many years....I use Total 5w40 on the F10 M5
which total? i used to only run the quartz 9000 5/40 for like 4 years straight and my blackstones came out good, switched over to the 0/40 castrol from wally world since it was more accessible and a few bucks cheaper for the 5 gallon jugs.
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which total? i used to only run the quartz 9000 5/40 for like 4 years straight and my blackstones came out good, switched over to the 0/40 castrol from wally world since it was more accessible and a few bucks cheaper for the 5 gallon jugs.
Quartz 9000 Energy 5W40 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My ex Porsche mechanic used to work for a race team....and he tried all oils including Mobil.....then the ELF rep asked him to try their oil and it was the first time after engine teardown that the engine had minimal wear......I started using ELF oil then it was renamed to TOTAL.....oil analysis also showed better results that other brands..

I use this one in the Lambo

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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Quartz 9000 Energy 5W40 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My ex Porsche mechanic used to work for a race team....and he tried all oils including Mobil.....then the ELF rep asked him to try their oil and it was the first time after engine teardown that the engine had minimal wear......I started using ELF oil then it was renamed to TOTAL.....oil analysis also showed better results that other brands..

I use this one in the Lambo

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
my mechanic used to race in nasa and put me on to that elf in 2006 and would give it to me for like 22$ and then like you said it was renamed to total and used that exact one for a long time, bitog seemed to think the new castrol titanium was better. i havent used the total for a probably 2 years like you said both give me good oil analysis. i just change every 3k and im good.
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