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Well that's not good. . If anyone has it please pm me for my email addy.
Donnie will post JB4 mobile updates soon. Until then ensure CPS values are set to 0. Those same fields became duty bias.


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Default 04-10-2015, 10:47 PM

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Where can I download and earlier version firmware ?
If you don't have a windows laptop and BMS USB cable to modify the settings, you might need an older firmware. Just email Terry to be sure.

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Default 04-11-2015, 05:24 AM

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If you don't have a windows laptop and BMS USB cable to modify the settings, you might need an older firmware. Just email Terry to be sure.

FWIW, I never drive my car hard without logging...
Others here do that actually ? lol
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Default 04-11-2015, 09:46 AM

Can someone please remind me of the default values for "all map afr" and "all map cps" thanks


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Default 04-11-2015, 09:55 AM

Updated first post with that info.


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Default 04-12-2015, 08:32 AM

hello,

quick question:
is there the possibility to alter the settings for the cold/hot oil protection (for example to raise the hot limit a few degrees) or to disable it?

i know the risks, it is for a special purpose.

edit: oh sorry, i wanted to post this to the general thread, maybe somebody can move it? (http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10605)

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Default 04-12-2015, 09:30 AM

Read the firmware notes for directions on that.


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Default 04-12-2015, 10:19 AM

ok i feared that this question was anwered before and i searched.
The only thing i found was:
FUD 100 - Use water temp in place of oil temp for warm up safety.

Well ok, if this is the only option I have let me understand it better:
does it work like the oil protection? (so ranges from 160 to 280 degrees?)
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Default 04-12-2015, 11:17 AM

It goes off water temp instead. Turn on 160 degrees F water temp. Which takes much less time.


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Default 04-12-2015, 02:38 PM

ok, i'll try it - thanks so far.

but to be clear: no way in just turning the safety off?
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Default 04-12-2015, 02:43 PM

That is the only option. The DME also has a built in safety based on water temps so using that method is about as aggressive as you can get.


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Default 04-13-2015, 01:37 AM

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changing values in the interface (e.g. wastegate or other settings) also changes the value in the car?

when updating the firmware some settings are still saved in the car (selected map, can flap, etc.)! so which settings changes in the car or what are the default values for the settings IN THE CAR.
nobody an answer to that?
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Default 04-13-2015, 08:02 AM

The wheel control guide in the first post outlines the in dash settings.


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Default 04-13-2015, 08:19 AM

Terry,

guideline is missing auto-clear settings


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guideline is missing auto-clear settings
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Default 04-13-2015, 09:13 AM

Is it only me or when flashing the car the safety feature of hitting full boost before operating oil temp is disabled? Not that I ever get on it before operating temps but just noticed it in beginning, in which I feathered the throttle until I went to the 4/2 setting.
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Is it only me or when flashing the car the safety feature of hitting full boost before operating oil temp is disabled? Not that I ever get on it before operating temps but just noticed it in beginning, in which I feathered the throttle until I went to the 4/2 setting.
With a backend flash, you will be able to reach full boost even with cold temperatures. Just make sure to drive carefully until warmed up, since the warm-up safety feature no longer applies. This has to do with permanently altering the tune in the computer, as opposed to just having the JB4 control tuning when oil temps are ready.


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Default 04-13-2015, 09:36 AM

With the new setup the warmup protection is in effect. Sure you are in 4/2 back end flash mode?


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Default 04-13-2015, 09:52 AM

With the pump gas flash and 91 octane I get many consistent timing drops when running anything higher than map 1 before the new firmware (13 psi). Now, in the new 4/2 mode the lowest I can run is map 1 (now 15 psi) and I'm seeing many timing drops.

Is the only way to create a less aggressive map to make a custom map 6 at 13 psi? How much boost are you guys able to run on straight 91 and the pump flash without timing drops? Thanks.


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Default 04-13-2015, 10:19 AM

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With the pump gas flash and 91 octane I get many consistent timing drops when running anything higher than map 1 before the new firmware (13 psi). Now, in the new 4/2 mode the lowest I can run is map 1 (now 15 psi) and I'm seeing many timing drops.

Is the only way to create a less aggressive map to make a custom map 6 at 13 psi? How much boost are you guys able to run on straight 91 and the pump flash without timing drops? Thanks.
start a thread in the support section and post logs, we can offer specific help there without making their thread any longer


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Default 04-13-2015, 11:28 AM

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With the new setup the warmup protection is in effect. Sure you are in 4/2 back end flash mode?
That's great! I didn't realize it was back in effect now.

Also getting significant timing drops, more than my last setup on the previous pump flash, ISO 28_5. I need to post up some logs later tonight, even map 5 can't resolve itself.


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Also getting significant timing drops, more than my last setup on the previous pump flash, ISO 28_5. I need to post up some logs later tonight, even map 5 can't resolve itself.
+1 Map 5 just keeps upping the boost despite timing drops.


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+1 Map 5 just keeps upping the boost despite timing drops.
I'll post up my map 2 and map 5 logs tonight, curious to know if you're seeing similar problems. My plugs are maybe a couple thousand miles old (I pulled them last week and they looked fine). Injectors are newer, coils haven't been a problem for me yet. My timing drops are all over the place, not isolated to specific cylinders and parameters.


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Default 04-13-2015, 01:26 PM

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That's great! I didn't realize it was back in effect now.

Also getting significant timing drops, more than my last setup on the previous pump flash, ISO 28_5. I need to post up some logs later tonight, even map 5 can't resolve itself.
Timing drops alone don't indicate that something is overly aggressive. Map5 uses the average timing value across all cylinders to peek at the DME's timing adaptions.


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Default 04-13-2015, 02:49 PM

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With the new setup the warmup protection is in effect. Sure you are in 4/2 back end flash mode?
Yessir I am u have been ever since the firmware change, I have to try it again, I just usually feather the pedal so I haven't really tested it, but I will let you know.
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