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Default logs,issue with V2 board/firmware N63TU? - 07-06-2019, 02:53 PM

Hey Terry i got new V2 JB4 and seems like something not right when comparing Map0 and map4, arent they both suppose to be stock flash boost target?
When i did Map6 with target 15psi boost went over 21psi on bank2 while boost bank1 around 16.5psi
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Map6 target 15psi
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File Type: csv 190706_1540 Map4.csv (10.3 KB, 35 views)
File Type: csv 190706_1534 Map6 15psi target.csv (8.2 KB, 39 views)


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Default 07-07-2019, 10:55 AM

Just need the CSV files, not photos.

When you switch to a safety map throttle will close so the boost reading will be falsely high. Big issue here is bank2 boost is off the scale. Even your map0 is over boosting a bit. I'd start by disabling WG control all together by setting FF = 0 and logging map1.
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Default 07-07-2019, 04:02 PM

Here is Map1 with WG disable and FF = 0
Seems like Boost2 is overboosting over 21.2psi & it kicking into Map4
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Default 07-07-2019, 04:36 PM

Do the turbos use factory vacuum wastegates?

Set duty bias all to 0 next and log map1. If it still does it, put BCM connections to stock and log map1.


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Default 07-07-2019, 06:58 PM

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Do the turbos use factory vacuum wastegates?

Set duty bias all to 0 next and log map1. If it still does it, put BCM connections to stock and log map1.
Yes oem original WG, I did reload firmware and set duty bias to 0 and after few pulls seems like pulling harder and still staying on Map1
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Default 07-07-2019, 07:02 PM

Yes this looks OK. It seems any BCM movement is causing the bank variance issue.

It's running WMI? Flash?


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Default 07-07-2019, 07:14 PM

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Yes this looks OK. It seems any BCM movement is causing the bank variance issue.

It's running WMI? Flash?
Itís on stock oem factory flash with BMS WMI but I believe itís not spraying on Map1


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OK let's go back to the WMI map then map8 on say a 40 additive and log that.


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OK let's go back to the WMI map then map8 on say a 40 additive and log that.
Something going on with Boost2, on second log I did from 4th gear and it went in to Map4, look how close boost1 to boost2 after it shifts in to 5th gear(Map4)
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File Type: csv 2019-07-07 22_52_02_Map-8 4th gear went on Map4 2.csv (13.6 KB, 36 views)


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Default 07-07-2019, 09:29 PM

Set PID gain to 0 also.


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Default 07-07-2019, 10:13 PM

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Set PID gain to 0 also.
Still over the target. My external digital boost gauge showing no more than 12-14psi, could be a Map sensors calibration off on jb4 firmware?
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Default 07-08-2019, 08:39 AM

Might be WGs adjusted too tightly on the turbos, to the point that you need to flash the car to manually get WGDC down. The BCM can only add WGDC not subtract it on this platform.

You can go up to a 60 additive next.

On boost JB4 calibration seems correct. Where is the external gauge tapped on the manifold?


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Default 07-08-2019, 08:51 AM

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Might be WGs adjusted too tightly on the turbos, to the point that you need to flash the car to manually get WGDC down. The BCM can only add WGDC not subtract it on this platform.

You can go up to a 60 additive next.

On boost JB4 calibration seems correct. Where is the external gauge tapped on the manifold?
ill try to loosing up a little bit the WG rods.
i got Greddy digital boost controller attached to bank2 from compessor cover, the controller is off so im just using as a boost preference.

I did extended one full turn on Boost2 WG, here’s log with additive 60
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Default 07-08-2019, 02:50 PM

Get two 3.5bar TMAP sensors on the car also because we're already clipping the factory 2.5bar sensors. And make sure the car is on race gas or E30 while trying to dial it in for a little extra safety.

I still think a modest flash is a good idea to get peak timing down and maybe lean out the AFR a bit.


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Get two 3.5bar TMAP sensors on the car also because we're already clipping the factory 2.5bar sensors. And make sure the car is on race gas or E30 while trying to dial it in for a little extra safety.

I still think a modest flash is a good idea to get peak timing down and maybe lean out the AFR a bit.
Can you advise on my latest log
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Default 08-27-2019, 08:04 PM

Some bank to bank variance here so not thrilled with the boost control.
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