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Default 03-08-2019, 10:39 PM

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I do know the results.

Only you donít.
What's the pressure difference?
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Default 03-08-2019, 11:27 PM

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What's the pressure difference?
158 psi.....in favor of the N55 HPFP.

Thanks for proving you are full of it and cannot read data.

You just lost your bet and proved me correct.....again.

3 Strikes.

You are out!!!!!!!!

So in the the last 4 pages of posts everyone except me stated the B58 HPFP passed more fuel...yet in same tune request, it’s supplying LESS FUEL in the rail lines which are still the same size, ROFLMAO.

Forget power....this is raw fuel supply numbers., lol.
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Default 03-08-2019, 11:44 PM

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158 psi.....in favor of the N55 HPFP.

Thanks for proving you are full of it and cannot read data.

You just lost your bet and proved me correct.....again.

3 Strikes.

You are out.
Wherever that came from, mean is irrelevant. Minimum matters.
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Default 03-08-2019, 11:47 PM

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Wherever that came from, mean is irrelevant. Minimum matters.
Bonus round and you struck out again!

Mean is only number in the data, proving again you know nothing and certainly cannot read data.
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Default 03-08-2019, 11:55 PM

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Bonus round and you struck out again!

Mean is only number in the data, proving again you know nothing and certainly cannot read data.
It doesn't matter if it's the only number in [your] data, because it's about as irrelevant as mean ambient temperature. You haven't seen anyone tell anyone to look at mean HPFP to determine if fueling is sufficient, because it doesn't matter. If it drops to 8 it doesn't matter what it usually is.
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Default 03-09-2019, 12:01 AM

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It doesn't matter if it's the only number in [your] data, because it's about as irrelevant as mean ambient temperature. You haven't seen anyone tell anyone to look at mean HPFP to determine if fueling is sufficient, because it doesn't matter. If it drops to 8 it doesn't matter what it usually is.
Keep changing your metrics.

Really sad.

You were the one willing to bet on the Rail PSI numbers....and now changing to numbers that are not in the data.

ROFLMAO

So sad....and desperate.
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Default 03-09-2019, 12:41 AM

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i hope you will have the same results as me

why does the site keep screwing up links to datazap , i want to post my logs so everyone can see the results for their own

https://daatazap.me/u/thomas/log-155...og=0&data=4-21

this is the log with hdp5evo

https://daatazap.me/u/thomas/log-154...og=0&data=4-20

this one is with the oem n55's hdp5

same engine map used for both logs

click the link , remove one letter a in dAAtazap and then you can see them :s
Take out the XHP Flash and redo the B58 HPFP data if you want a true comparison. If you donít want a true comparison, dont.

Changing the shift points (as can be seen in the data) is accounting for much of what you are seeing as the XHP appears to be keeping the car in the best range for power.

That would be a truer apples to apples comparison.

As it is now, you cannot account what the XHP change had in the data.

The data shows that the power is tracking the rpm shifts....and the XHP is keeping the shifts in the power band, making the graph looks smoother.

Appears that most of what you are attributing to the B58 HPFP smoothing out the results is actually the result of your adding the XHP Flash after the N55 HPFP Data was taken in December prior to the XHP being available and the resulting later first shift point.
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Default 03-09-2019, 06:26 AM

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Keep changing your metrics.

Really sad.

You were the one willing to bet on the Rail PSI numbers....and now changing to numbers that are not in the data.

ROFLMAO

So sad....and desperate.
We have data of 859 psi for stock, and only much higher points for B58. I see circa 2000 psi, and what looks like a little less, but unless the graph is an actual forgery (Why would it be?; Why am I and the OP so "desperate" to prove a DIY mod is good? We aren't selling aftermarket pumps...), the minimum is a lot higher than 859. Looks closer to double.
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greetings gents- came over from bimmerpost to see how this war will play out
Welcome, are you coming to kidnap IK6Speed and locking him up in bimmerpost?
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Default 03-09-2019, 09:13 AM

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We have data of 859 psi for stock, and only much higher points for B58. I see circa 2000 psi, and what looks like a little less, but unless the graph is an actual forgery (Why would it be?; Why am I and the OP so "desperate" to prove a DIY mod is good? We aren't selling aftermarket pumps...), the minimum is a lot higher than 859. Looks closer to double.
Are you really that clueless?

OP car has 500 hp. Does he need 500 hp in reverse or while parking?

Look at the Boost PSI and Boost PSI request as the rail PSI request is not in the N55 data.

The car with the N55 HPFP is doing exactly what is asked of it and over delivering. It’s actually the car with the B58 HPFP setup that is under delivering at that point.

Why are you so “desperate”? Because you want so hard to believe this will solve yout demand for a $2000 HPFP at a $200 price point.
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Welcome, are you coming to kidnap IK6Speed and locking him up in bimmerpost?
haha, nope-I know better than to get involved in this spirited discussion.

I have no horse in this race


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haha, nope-I know better than to get involved in this spirited discussion.

I have no horse in this race
Wise choice! lets have a drink while we watch. cheers
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Default 03-09-2019, 10:25 AM

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Are you really that clueless?

OP car has 500 hp. Does he need 500 hp in reverse or while parking?

Look at the Boost PSI and Boost PSI request as the rail PSI request is not in the N55 data.

N55 HPFP is doing exactly what is asked of it and over delivering. Itís actually the B58 HPFP setup that is under delivering at that point.

Why are you so ďdesperateĒ? Because you want so hard to believe this will solve yout demand for a $2000 HPFP at a $200 price point.
These pictures are brilliant at illustrating the pumps differences.

N55 hpfp canít recover after a post shift boost spike and is well below target throughout the whole gear.

B58 hpfp recovers instantly after post shift dip and maintains target rail pressure throughout.

Good job


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Default 03-09-2019, 10:29 AM

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These pictures are brilliant at illustrating the pumps differences.

N55 hpfp can’t recover after a post shift boost spike and is well below target throughout the whole gear.

B58 hpfp recovers instantly after post shift dip and maintains target rail pressure throughout.

Good job
Great job on imagining data not in the logs

Here’s another one for you to ponder on. Why does the N55 HPFP not drop that much pressure after the first shift point....hmmmm..

In fact, the B58 HPFP drop LOWER at that point.

Guess you missed that...
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Default 03-09-2019, 10:53 AM

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Great job on imagining data not in the logs
Haha if you canít see this in the previous log screen grabs you provided then I donít know . Good luck with what ever you are trying to achieve here


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Default 03-09-2019, 10:56 AM

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N55 hpfp can’t recover after a post shift boost spike and is well below target throughout the whole gear.

Good job

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Haha if you can’t see this in the previous log screen grabs you provided then I don’t know . Good luck with what ever you are trying to achieve here
You hungover and seeing things?

Requested Rail PSI is not in the N55 datalogs, so you are making up data saying that it is well below target PSI.

And you have yet to show the impact of the XHP Flash keeping the engine in the power band after the N55 data was captured
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Default 03-09-2019, 11:28 AM

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You hungover and seeing things?

Requested Rail PSI is not in the N55 datalogs, so you are making up data saying that it is well below target PSI.

And you have yet to show the impact of the XHP Flash keeping the engine in the power band after the N55 data was captured
We both know the target rail pressure wonít be 800psi, whether itís in the log or not.

Anyways enjoy your weekend 🍻


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Default M2 N55 e40 with map7 - 03-09-2019, 11:56 AM

Hey Guys, swaped the b58 pump today, now we test it on e40 and map7 on JB4

And guys it works and the car move forwad dammmn
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Default 03-09-2019, 12:08 PM

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We both know the target rail pressure won’t be 800psi, whether it’s in the log or not.
Do we?

Boost target was being met (unlike B58 HPFP data) so why is there need for more fuel?

Like I said, 500HP is not needed all the time.

Your logic MIGHT make sense if there was a large rail pressure drop after EVERY shift point, but the N55 HPFP Rail Pressure did much better after the first shift point than the B58 HPFP. That’s where your line of reasoning falls apart.

Again, as we’ve seen, virtually every datapoint favors the N55 data which produced higher Rail PSI and higher bhp.

B58 Pump was often throwing out more rail Pressure than requested.

That doesn’t make it better.

And again, what part did XHP play in this with the shift point changes.

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Hey Guys, swaped the b58 pump today, now we test it on e40 and map7 on JB4

And guys it works and the car move forwad dammmn
Fuel pressure looks good. Looks like stock turbo and lower boost levels, rather than PS2. Still eager for PS2 results.


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Default 03-09-2019, 03:16 PM

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Hey Guys, swaped the b58 pump today, now we test it on e40 and map7 on JB4

And guys it works and the car move forwad dammmn

Nice to see some results , i hope to see a map update soon , so i can display
mine too , first 93oct after that e20 to e30 mix .

is it possible to have some pics of your install ? did you do things differently the way i did them ?


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Default 03-09-2019, 10:50 PM

Crobond's E40 results are great. As much as 18 psi on E40! The N55 HPFP doesn't tolerate that much ethanol even at lower boost and it won't do 18 psi without breaking up, even on pump gas.

Thomas, you could run E20 to E30 on the flash tune you're currently running. Lots of N55 guys, myself included, have run small ethanol mixes on pump gas tunes with no issues and great results.


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Default 03-10-2019, 12:43 AM

@Crobond
About how long was your install? Any tips? Glad to see more taking the leap
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Default 03-10-2019, 01:12 AM

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Hey Guys, swaped the b58 pump today, now we test it on e40 and map7 on JB4

And guys it works and the car move forwad dammmn
This is exactly what I wanted to see, if this pump can support the stock m2 turbo considering it has greater potential over the regular ewg turbo.

When I ran jb4 even map 2 at 15psi it would strain the oem hpfp more than your log on more boost and e40.

Any chance of 100-200kph times Crobond?


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