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Default 04-01-2016, 06:43 AM

Ah, what a nice find this thread is

Got my Hexon RR600 installed last weekend, together with larger inlets. Already on the way back home i could feel a lot of torque (650i clutch slippling, need to check for air in clutch system...)

For sure also got lots of errors (JB4 falling into map4) and Interface said last error was due to overboost issues (boost safety set to 25psi!!). Seems legit, as i just read on page 1 of this thread that i need to flash some specific backend and also have some values adapted in the JB4 interface. Ok, so got that at least.

But now: i want to have a custom map done for my car now, but also want to stick to my (i guess OUR) beloved JB4. How do i have to set the JB to only provide its nice additional features (exhaust, gauges, shift indicator etc) and let the flash handle ALL the tuning? What does the JB4 still have under control when flashing a custom map or the RACE etc backend flash offered?

I already have MHD here for the flashing stuff, should do fine.
Other mods are: RR600, Inlets, *********, Wagner EVO2, Walbro 450, some E85 if needed, otherwise EURO 100 octane fuel, RB PCV. manual transmission, MSD81 DME. hoping to shoot for some good results with this setup finally.


Thanks for support and input! I am willing to do some logs/tests if helpful or interesting to others as well.
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Default 04-01-2016, 08:14 AM

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How do you like your Hexon RR600's so far??
Which inlets did you go with?


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Default 04-01-2016, 08:51 AM

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But now: i want to have a custom map done for my car now, but also want to stick to my (i guess OUR) beloved JB4. How do i have to set the JB to only provide its nice additional features (exhaust, gauges, shift indicator etc) and let the flash handle ALL the tuning? What does the JB4 still have under control when flashing a custom map or the RACE etc backend flash offered?
It's also in the main JB4 thread but here you get all the info on the new 4/4 option in JB4: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37242
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Default 04-01-2016, 11:02 AM

Will email you Terry.


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Default 04-01-2016, 02:30 PM

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How do you like your Hexon RR600's so far??
Which inlets did you go with?
Not too much of driving experience yet so... too early to say anything. With the BEF now running, i am hoping for some more action once the custom map is done. I don't think this is all the car is capable of. Will e-mail some Logs to Terry in a minute, i guess publishing them in this thread would not be welcome.


@johmei: thanks for your help/link!
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Default 04-01-2016, 03:02 PM

For log help you post them in the support area along with a listing of mods, fuel used, etc.


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Default 04-09-2016, 02:46 AM

I feel this is a no but, can you run E60-E70 with lpfp upgrade and no PI on Hybrids?


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Default 04-09-2016, 03:40 AM

It depends on your goals, I ran 19.5PSI with Hexon RR500 and E70. About 520whp on virtual dyno.


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Default 04-09-2016, 04:08 AM

I've been running E60 with my setup with no issues.


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Default Log check - 04-26-2016, 04:56 PM

Can someone check these logs and see how they look and advise on any changes needed. All duty bias set to 50. Running RB turbo's, inlets, jb4, charge pipe and bov, 7" intercooler.
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Default 04-29-2016, 05:12 AM

Terry, can you look into addressing the lean spool up on the E85 BEF? Seems some of us are running high AFR's while getting into boost. Love the power but not willing to sacrifice hurting the motor in the process. Thanks


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Default 04-29-2016, 11:37 AM

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Can someone check these logs and see how they look and advise on any changes needed. All duty bias set to 50. Running RB turbo's, inlets, jb4, charge pipe and bov, 7" intercooler.
What is the fuel setup?


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Default 04-29-2016, 11:38 AM

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Terry, can you look into addressing the lean spool up on the E85 BEF? Seems some of us are running high AFR's while getting into boost. Love the power but not willing to sacrifice hurting the motor in the process. Thanks
It is called lean spool. Would need to see a log though to determine whether or not it's operating as it should be.


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Default 04-29-2016, 12:55 PM

All three of these logs have been posted in the support forum. Obliviously some changes have been made to help with certain situation over the past week, but AFRs remain high. At this point, suggestion have been to either load regular hybrid BEF or start learning tunerpro. I'll do whatever I need for now to make sure I'm not running lean, was just hoping spool changes could be made to the BEF if you feel it's necessary.
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Default 04-29-2016, 01:04 PM

Looks normal for lean spool to me. But, drop me an email with the flash file loaded, and we can test a few things, if you have time to log it.


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Default 04-29-2016, 09:30 PM

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What is the fuel setup?
93 oct. No upgrades to fuel system yet.
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Default 04-29-2016, 09:35 PM

If anyone is having hybrid lean-spool issues email in a log and I'll send you the fix to test.


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Default 05-02-2016, 09:57 AM

Terry, is it possible in the future that when we update the firmware that it ignores the duty bias so we don't have to 0/50 them and then change them back after?


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Default 05-02-2016, 10:10 AM

Not following you. Why would you change them to 50 and then back to the tuned value again? If you've custom tuned them then don't touch them when updating firmware.


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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the notes in red on the E-series thread but I thought the settings had to be changed during a firmware update to avoid 30FF?


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Default 05-02-2016, 10:21 AM

They need to be updated once if updating from an older firmware. That's it.


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Glad I asked, lol Thanks


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Default rb turbo map - 05-05-2016, 07:04 PM

Cant wait for the turbo hybrid map
just got RB turbo next gen and the car is currently in the shop..
Terry if you need to run some tests we are 3 with rb turbo next gen.
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Default 05-05-2016, 08:24 PM

Sounds good. Get those logs rolling.


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