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Default 03-03-2016, 09:45 PM

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Actually I copied over the e85 KR BEF as a stand alone flash on my car yesterday. Not too bad really. Needs a little WGDC work, and might bring the load targets down a touch, but overall not a bad flash. Good work.
I think that was Terry's point.....without a piggyback controlling boost, the flash only WGDC tables are going to need some tweaking, which can be a challenge if you don't know your way around the PID tables.
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Default 03-04-2016, 08:35 AM

Terry,

In 4/4 flash only mode With the white subconnector back to stock can the N20 sensor still be used through the JB4?

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Default 03-04-2016, 08:57 AM

As it's set now, that will probably cause problems, unless the flash was setup for the OEM sensor scaling.


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Default 03-04-2016, 09:04 AM

Ok.. Just so I understand that... As long as the flash was set for the stock sensor scaling, the N20 map sensor could be used and the JB4 will still do its thing scaling it externally? Or is that now how it works?

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Default 03-04-2016, 09:29 AM

Correct. Although, given how flash tuners are doing maps now > 21psi, it would cause them issues to run the stock scaling.


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Default 03-04-2016, 09:49 AM

Ok.. So what would the solution be to run in flash only mode with an N20 sensor.. Would it require the maxboost?
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Default 03-04-2016, 10:38 AM

To run the N20 sensor, flash only, with a JB4 on mode 4/4, you would leave the JB4's TMAP sensor setting set to 0. This would prevent the JB4 from rescaling the sensor output. But this would also have the side effect of having the JB4 display the wrong boost values in JB4 logs. When you do it shoot me a JB4 log and I can figure out a user adjustment to fix the boost reading scaling.


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Default 03-04-2016, 12:06 PM

I hear that the MHD V6 maps have been released, FYI.


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Default 03-04-2016, 01:26 PM

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Default 03-04-2016, 06:49 PM

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Glad to see movement in this area! Great work and looking forward to seeing the race map reworked. As I'm stuck on 93 + meth

Will these changes to bef be the same for bb vs. mhd method ? I recall boost ceiling in mhd is higher than bb... Has bef utilized that yet? Or is that something flash only tune really needs? The reason I ask, I am still using bb to load my bef's and don't plan on moving to mhd for this until there is a valid reason (performance). I know mhd is more portable and maybe faster writes... I could care less about that.
Anyone able to chime in? Please and thank you.

... Anyone ?

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Default 03-06-2016, 10:50 AM

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I hear that the MHD V6 maps have been released, FYI.
Sweet I'll give it a few days to ensure they don't change them and hit the dyno up for the flash only PUMP comparison we wanted.


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Default 03-06-2016, 12:02 PM

nice . looking forward to it


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Default 03-06-2016, 01:52 PM

great thread... reading anxiously to see what positives come up...


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Default 03-06-2016, 05:40 PM

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Anyone able to chime in? Please and thank you.

... Anyone ?
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Default 03-07-2016, 04:29 PM

We want those Dyno results


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Default 03-07-2016, 05:19 PM

MHD V6 maps are in beta, no public (full) release yet.

Interested to see where this discussion goes
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Default 03-07-2016, 05:23 PM

OK will wait for public release. I have a few new things we need to test on our PUMP back end flash maps in the mean time anyway.


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Default 03-07-2016, 05:37 PM

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The problem with the old Shiv Open Flash Tablet maps is that so many new tables have been found that it cannot see.
Save the bin (after you make it with the old XDFs) then use the bin with the current XDFs. Everything can be seen. you may have to update some tables that weren't open back then.
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Default 03-09-2016, 06:37 PM

Sorry if it's been asked already but, if I switch to 4/4 and put white connector back to stock to allow MHD to control boost do I lose anything else besides wastegate control? Do I lose my 2step/ NLS? Rolling anitlag? boost by gear?


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Default 03-09-2016, 06:53 PM

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OK will wait for public release. I have a few new things we need to test on our PUMP back end flash maps in the mean time anyway.
Shoot me a revision if you need anything else tested. I'm free all week and this weekend.


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Sorry if it's been asked already but, if I switch to 4/4 and put white connector back to stock to allow MHD to control boost do I lose anything else besides wastegate control? Do I lose my 2step/ NLS? Rolling anitlag? boost by gear?
Yes you lose all JB4 features except data logging and in dash gauges.


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Default 03-10-2016, 08:50 AM

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Save the bin (after you make it with the old XDFs) then use the bin with the current XDFs. Everything can be seen. you may have to update some tables that weren't open back then.
Yes...thanks. I finally figured out where to get the updated xdf's and can see all the new tables now

But given the OTF is no longer supported and such old technology, I am porting my maps over to MHD flasher as I have an android phone now.

Thanks for the information!
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Default 03-10-2016, 09:07 AM

Do the mhd backend flashes get updated also? I've been running the same backend since mhd ots v2


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Updates are posted to the MHD thread.


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Default 03-15-2016, 12:26 AM

Looking forward to seeing the difference 3/14/16 pump performs on the dyno. I'm sure it feels smoother, partly owing to throttle mapping changes but also less ignition retard events when IAT is >100f.
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