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Default 06-16-2018, 12:30 PM

Hi Terry,
Can you intergrate a spark cut when the ECU detects a misfire and cuts fuel?

Looks like jake at motive developed it already.
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Default 06-18-2018, 06:30 AM

I have the jb4 injection controller, triggering the second 450 pump and that is all working right my LPFP is staying strong under boost now. If I am noticing the HPFP still having trouble and going say 10 and sometimes going to 5, how do I increase requested port injector volume. is there a FOL or change I can make to take additional strain off the direct injection by flowing more port injection?
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Default 06-18-2018, 07:53 AM

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I have the jb4 injection controller, triggering the second 450 pump and that is all working right my LPFP is staying strong under boost now. If I am noticing the HPFP still having trouble and going say 10 and sometimes going to 5, how do I increase requested port injector volume. is there a FOL or change I can make to take additional strain off the direct injection by flowing more port injection?
It is under the fuel bias, post a log so I can take a look.


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Default 06-18-2018, 10:19 AM

I have enabled my VSO e85 sensor. It should read approx 87-90. Sometimes Iím noticing the value drops if I have the ign on but not car running while Iím changing some settings in jb4. The longer I donít start the car the more this value drops. Once it dropped to E30, clearly a wrong indication.

So I have to start the car and idle and wait till the value goes bk up to E87. This can take up to 5 min a pita. My question is if I donít wait for it to recover and I do a wot and the jb4 Pi controller sees E30 or E40, it will create issues?


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Default 06-21-2018, 11:08 AM

The instruction says ") Set "meth scaling" to 99. When port injection is flowing you should see a meth flow trace appear in JB4 logs that mirrors "fuel enrichment" (port injection dutycycle request). If the trace is stuck at 0 there is likely a wiring or setup issue. "

"Meth scaling" is nowhere to find in the Jb4 app..
However i can find "Signal scaling" under WMI, is this the same?
If not, which one should i adjust and where can i find it?
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Default 06-21-2018, 05:35 PM

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The instruction says ") Set "meth scaling" to 99. When port injection is flowing you should see a meth flow trace appear in JB4 logs that mirrors "fuel enrichment" (port injection dutycycle request). If the trace is stuck at 0 there is likely a wiring or setup issue. "

"Meth scaling" is nowhere to find in the Jb4 app..
However i can find "Signal scaling" under WMI, is this the same?
If not, which one should i adjust and where can i find it?
Yes is the same.

Signal scaling = Meth scaling


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Default 06-21-2018, 06:06 PM

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Good question. No, even though it moves the IM slightly, the slack is absorbed by the large silicone couplers connecting the charge *****. You won't notice anything.

I'm using PI kit with the ARM Motorsports Charge Pipe and there is serious interference between the CP and the power steering lines. I have tried moving the lines around but I haven't had any success.

Does anyone know of a working CP for this setup?
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Default 06-22-2018, 08:31 AM

Get the BMS charge pipe.



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Default 06-22-2018, 08:59 AM

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Get the BMS charge pipe.
Phoenix Racing or CPE? I have a Tial BOV with 2" Stock location Inlets as well. I can move the inlets around but there isn't much I can do with the P/S lines.
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Default 06-22-2018, 03:45 PM

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Phoenix Racing or CPE? I have a Tial BOV with 2" Stock location Inlets as well. I can move the inlets around but there isn't much I can do with the P/S lines.
Either one will work great. I think we all run the Phoenix one with all our development cars. ST, Stock inlet location, and relocated ones.

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Unhappy Two Yellow Wire - 06-26-2018, 10:25 AM

I got a JB4 Integrated Port Injection from BMS, I follow the install instruction on first page, but the problem is that my controller has two yellow wire!!!
What should I do?


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Default 06-26-2018, 10:30 AM

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I got a JB4 Integrated Port Injection from BMS, I follow the install instruction on first page, but the problem is that my controller has two yellow wire!!!
What should I do?
Are you sure it's yellow and not orange? The thicker wire should be your 12v external trigger (LPFP, etc.)


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Default 06-26-2018, 10:39 AM

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Are you sure it's yellow and not orange? The thicker wire should be your 12v external trigger (LPFP, etc.)


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Red JB4 power on green connector
Yellow goes to the BMS data cable #9
Orange is 12V Trigger
White goes to JB4 Db25 harness #15
Purple goes in the small gray subconnector #21 as read from the female side


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Default 06-26-2018, 10:46 AM

The thick yellow one will be your external 12V trigger. If you are controlling your secondary LPFP through the hobbs switch or nitrous trigger wire it can stay disconnected. You could also use it for a meth pump as well or any other 12v source.
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Default 06-26-2018, 10:52 AM

Follow the directions, all the wires have the pins and connectors needed. The thick yellow wire is your trigger for secondary pump.


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Default 07-06-2018, 06:54 PM

Hey terry i have a question i just bought bms pi controller everything is set i just have a question about the purple wire. Can i please get your emale so you can see a picture if the purple wire is in the right place.
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Default 07-06-2018, 06:56 PM

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I got a JB4 Integrated Port Injection from BMS, I follow the install instruction on first page, but the problem is that my controller has two yellow wire!!!
What should I do?
I am in the same situation as you i left the tick yellow wire disconnected.
Also can you please sent me a picture to see where you connected the purple wire to, it dosemt make sence to me.
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Default 07-07-2018, 07:11 AM

pi kit and aic6 controller Is this used simultaneously with the bms meth nozzle on charge pipe(12cm x2 335i)?
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Default 07-07-2018, 10:12 AM

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Follow the directions, all the wires have the pins and connectors needed. The thick yellow wire is your trigger for secondary pump.
Hey here is better pictures please let me know if my purple wire is installed right. Thank you in advance.
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Default 07-09-2018, 10:12 AM

Hi Terry,

Just to confirm, if I am running the JB4 and your latest PI controller on E85 (no meth), I still go into the WMI tab and set "Signal scaling" to 99, correct?


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Default 07-09-2018, 10:28 AM

Correct, even though im not Terry , lol
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Correct, even though im not Terry , lol
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Default 07-09-2018, 10:37 AM

No problem, Im running E85 only and PI as well so yeah, 99.
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Default 07-18-2018, 11:52 AM

Hi!
Posted this also in the support/logs thread.

I've just finished my install of mmp 1k turbos and PI.
I have jb4 and PI is controlled by bms PI-controller.
Noticed on the log that 'fuel en' is ok, but no 'meth' trace is visible and cause I'm on 100% e85 the hpfp drops cause there is something messed up with the PI. I attach here a log with map2. So are my settings ok? Or is there something with the wiring? I double checked all wirings when installed PI-controller.*
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Default 07-18-2018, 12:13 PM

When did you purchase the JB4? Could be the 24k22 chip. We see fuel en but no meth signal.
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