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Default JB4 for Gen3B 2.0T VAG Group - 10-02-2018, 08:22 AM

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We'll use this thread for our upcoming JB4 suitable for 2.0 Gen3B powered cars updates, map guides, firmware, and discussion!

The engine in these cars can be easily identified by the MAF sensor on the intake system circled below:



Compatible cars:

Audi A3 2.0T 184hp
Audi A4 2.0T 190hp
Audi A5 2.0T 190hp
Skoda Kodiaq 2.0T 180hp
Seat Ateca 20T 190hp
VW Aerton 2.0T 190hp
VW Tiguan 2.0T North American
VW T-Roc N1 2.0T 184hp
VW Passat 2.0T North American 174hp
VW Polo GTI 2.0T 200hp

We are currently sending out test units for general feedback. You can email me at George@burgertuning.com for further information.


Install Guide here: Follow this guide for now and skip the AFR install as we are not using the feature on the Gen3B.http://www.burgertuning.com/instruct...B4_install.pdf


Optional map changing, datalogging and updates are done using the BMS data cable or JB4 Mobile REV3 bluetooth kit.

JB4 Mobile Smart Phone wireless connection directions click here: https://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21742
BMS data cable hard wired directions and software click here: https://www.n54tech.com/forums/showp...21&postcount=1


Pre-Release map guide:

Map0: Stock tuning, disable JB4
Map1: 3psi peak over stock
Map2: 4si peak over stock
Map3: 5psi peak over stock (93AKI or 98Ron recommended)
Map4: Stock tuning, JB4 logging fully active

Firmware updates:

Firmware is what the software that runs the JB4 is called. We keep improving on our units by adding more features etc over time.

To upload new firmware to the unit with the Windows interface connect to the JB4 with engine off but key on. Go to File then Upload firmware and select the firmware from the location you have downloaded it. If the upload fails then try again unit it takes. Its important the data cable is secured to the JB4 circuit board.
Instructions on how to load it on the app can be found here, be sure to come to this thread when selecting the firmware: http://jb4connectkit.com/store/index...ormation_id=10

Firmware update to 26/2//5

1. Battery drain issue with OBD wire fixed
2. Small mapping changes

How to update firmware:

For firmware updates we suggest you turn off WiFi, change upload timeout to 25, and set your phone next to JB4 box under the hood.


Download firmware using the new JB4 Mobile firmware database or externally by clicking this link.




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In our own stable we have both a US Tiguan as well as a Polo GTI 200hp
Had the Polo GTI on the dyno for some preliminary map testing. Gains seemed to be good on map 3 but the car has heat soak issues with the smaller front mount intercooler.

After some cooling car made decent power in map 3. The turbo is a IS20 so there is more range for power and much more torque using map 6 when coupled with cooling mods.



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Default 01-04-2019, 04:38 AM

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After some cooling car made decent power in map 3. The turbo is a IS20 so there is more range for power and much more torque using map 6 when coupled with cooling mods.
Hi George, what cooling mods do you mean in here? Cooling for a dyno or a bigger IC?
Are you aware of any IC upgrades ready for purchase for the new Polo GTI 2.0TSI to become map 6 compliant?

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Hi George, what cooling mods do you mean in here? Cooling for a dyno or a bigger IC?
Are you aware of any IC upgrades ready for purchase for the new Polo GTI 2.0TSI to become map 6 compliant?

Cheers from Poland
In general, the IAT can climb 30C in a single pull through the gears. There isn't a cooler available yet. I know Wagner is working on one so it should be the first to become available.


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In general, the IAT can climb 30C in a single pull through the gears. There isn't a cooler available yet. I know Wagner is working on one so it should be the first to become available.
Would we run into cooling issues on the 2018 A4 190hp models ? Or the cooling functionality is different between the A4 and what you are testing?


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Would we run into cooling issues on the 2018 A4 190hp models ? Or the cooling functionality is different between the A4 and what you are testing?
Less so with the 190hp A4 as the intercooler has a slightly different lay out and seems to be larger. Most users are in winter now so the data is not enough to be conclusive.
In the next few weeks we are fitting on A4 that are in hot climates and will have a better idea.


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In our own stable we have both a US Tiguan as well as a Polo GTI 200hp
Had the Polo GTI on the dyno for some preliminary map testing. Gains seemed to be good on map 3 but the car has heat soak issues with the smaller front mount intercooler.

After some cooling car made decent power in map 3. The turbo is a IS20 so there is more range for power and much more torque using map 6 when coupled with cooling mods.

George, I have the JB4 now fitted to my Polo. Should map 3 be OK as it is - 1 outside
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George, I have the JB4 now fitted to my Polo. Should map 3 be OK as it is - 1 outside
Yes, it should be good.


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Default 10-08-2018, 03:49 PM

Really looking forward to this !
A4 B9 2.0T Fwd gen3b 190hp.
Any update on gains ?
Should there be any heat soak issue with this model ?
It has a lager intercooler than the polo no ?
Grtz from Belgium !
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Really looking forward to this !
A4 B9 2.0T Fwd gen3b 190hp.
Any update on gains ?
Should there be any heat soak issue with this model ?
It has a lager intercooler than the polo no ?
Grtz from Belgium !
Intercooler is large by the looks of things. A user local to me is fitting one next week some time so will get lots of data on the A4.


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Looking forward to good news !
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Looking forward to good news !

We most likely going to put these on our retail site next week.


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No updates on this ?
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No updates on this ?
We got quite a few testers out and so far so good. At this stage we evaluating the MAF signal and seeing if we can make any improvements by connecting to that.


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George, are you still looking for testers ?
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George, are you still looking for testers ?
Yes if you are US based, drop me a email to George@burgertuning.com .


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We got around 30 testers now and still evaluating . So far so good.


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Any feedback from testers?
I would like that as well......all feedback!

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I have JB4 fitted on gen3b T-Roc 190cv TSI and work great!,zero problems.

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Quite an accomplishment getting a Polo GTI in the US how did you go about that??
Ordered just before April and only just been built Nov. :-S

Do you Think you Will have produktion units Ready by Christmas? Incl. EU...

Would be tempted to get my selv a Christmas pressent :-D

Any plans to offer an intercooler upgrade for the polo or other of the cars that run hot???
Or are there already compatible products on the market??
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Quite an accomplishment getting a Polo GTI in the US how did you go about that??
Ordered just before April and only just been built Nov. :-S

Do you Think you Will have produktion units Ready by Christmas? Incl. EU...

Would be tempted to get my selv a Christmas pressent :-D

Any plans to offer an intercooler upgrade for the polo or other of the cars that run hot???
Or are there already compatible products on the market??
Part of our VAG group development gets done in South Africa where I am based. We managed to grab a ex press car albiet at a slight premium.
The unit will be ready before then and we expect release this month.
We will look at coolers for US models like the Passat but for the Polo the market is to small for us. Wagner is developing a cooler and normally Firge follows suite.


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Any idea when the unit shall be ready ?
Do you know if there Will be a air intake for this engine on A4 ?
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