N54Tech.com - International Turbo Racing Discussion
(#1)
Old
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO's Avatar
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 304
Join Date: Sep 2016
Car: 2016 F22 M235i Mineral White
Default BigBoost Turbo gets its hands on a B58 M240i! - 04-09-2017, 08:25 PM

Hi all,

Last week we got our own M240i for parts development. After doing some baseline runs at the dyno, we finally got to work on it. Our plans are manufacturing a stage 3 turbo and a port-injection, both to be released by late May. Stages 1 and 2 with direct replacement turbocharger will follow, no estimate time of arrival for those.

We'll keep you updated on progress!

Name:  Turbo Comparison.jpg
Views: 6540
Size:  230.6 KB

Name:  Turbine STG3 B58.jpg
Views: 5363
Size:  248.4 KB

Name:  Turbine 1.jpg
Views: 4913
Size:  238.4 KB

Name:  Intake B58 BigBoost.jpg
Views: 5085
Size:  256.2 KB

Name:  Exhaust B58 BigBoost.jpg
Views: 4930
Size:  271.2 KB

Name:  Turbo compaison 1.jpg
Views: 4884
Size:  193.8 KB

Name:  BMW M240i BigBoost.jpg
Views: 4950
Size:  267.5 KB

If you have any questions, please call us or E-Mail us:
(786) 375-5321
info@bigboostusa.com
http://bigboostusa.com/product-category/b58/


Big Boost, designing world's most innovating and efficient turbo kits!
-----------------
BigBoost Instagram: @bigboostturbo
webpage: bigboostusa.com

BigBoost's car: BMW M240i
Stage 3.4 turbo
Current B58 record holder: Currently: 822 WHP
4.8 100-200
10.85 @ 135 1/4 mile


Daily Driver: BMW M235i
BBT stage 3.3 turbo


Garage Queen: 2014 Nissan GT-R
EcuTek ECM and TCM tune, BDM DumpPipes, BDM intakes, BDM full race exhaust, hybrid turbos, E85. 936 WHP

Last edited by Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO; 04-27-2017 at 06:46 AM..
Reply With Quote
(#2)
Old
Mrpink Mrpink is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 129
Join Date: Dec 2016
Car: M140i
Default 04-09-2017, 11:24 PM

Nice one!
Reply With Quote
(#3)
Old
jpsimon jpsimon is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 111
Join Date: Feb 2008
Car: 335xi coupe
Default 04-10-2017, 06:42 AM

sweet! can't wait to see some results


BSM 340i xDrive (6MT, M-Sport, etc)
---
datazap.me
Reply With Quote
(#4)
Old
JB4OFF JB4OFF is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 121
Join Date: Nov 2016
Car: 340i
Default 04-10-2017, 08:36 AM

��
Reply With Quote
(#5)
Old
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO's Avatar
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 304
Join Date: Sep 2016
Car: 2016 F22 M235i Mineral White
Default 04-10-2017, 11:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cnm135i
And the baseline is......?
Name:  BigBoost M240i Baseline.jpg
Views: 4929
Size:  121.5 KB


Big Boost, designing world's most innovating and efficient turbo kits!
-----------------
BigBoost Instagram: @bigboostturbo
webpage: bigboostusa.com

BigBoost's car: BMW M240i
Stage 3.4 turbo
Current B58 record holder: Currently: 822 WHP
4.8 100-200
10.85 @ 135 1/4 mile


Daily Driver: BMW M235i
BBT stage 3.3 turbo


Garage Queen: 2014 Nissan GT-R
EcuTek ECM and TCM tune, BDM DumpPipes, BDM intakes, BDM full race exhaust, hybrid turbos, E85. 936 WHP
Reply With Quote
(#6)
Old
Tony@VargasTurboTech's Avatar
Tony@VargasTurboTech Tony@VargasTurboTech is offline
Senior Member
 
Posts: 806
Join Date: Aug 2012
Car: Anything with a Turbo
Default 04-10-2017, 12:36 PM

That dyno is on a stock tune? Also why the MPH axis on the bottom. All dynos should be plotted for RPM as it yields much more info.


Vargas Turbocharger Technologies
Tony@Vargasturbo.com
www.Vargasturbo.com
Making the world happier one turbocharger at a time
Reply With Quote
(#7)
Old
JETmn JETmn is offline
Senior Member
 
Posts: 552
Join Date: Nov 2013
Car: 2011 335xi
Default 04-11-2017, 10:44 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 435TwinScroll
Where does the EWG connect to ?
Are you serious?!? LOL
Reply With Quote
(#8)
Old
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO's Avatar
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 304
Join Date: Sep 2016
Car: 2016 F22 M235i Mineral White
Default 04-11-2017, 02:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 435TwinScroll
Im referring to the actuator.
The turbo has a flapper just like the stock one to which the actuator connects to.


Big Boost, designing world's most innovating and efficient turbo kits!
-----------------
BigBoost Instagram: @bigboostturbo
webpage: bigboostusa.com

BigBoost's car: BMW M240i
Stage 3.4 turbo
Current B58 record holder: Currently: 822 WHP
4.8 100-200
10.85 @ 135 1/4 mile


Daily Driver: BMW M235i
BBT stage 3.3 turbo


Garage Queen: 2014 Nissan GT-R
EcuTek ECM and TCM tune, BDM DumpPipes, BDM intakes, BDM full race exhaust, hybrid turbos, E85. 936 WHP
Reply With Quote
(#9)
Old
WakeOfDeath WakeOfDeath is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 48
Join Date: Mar 2017
Car: X6M & M2
Default 04-18-2017, 05:27 PM

Where's the Torque?
+1 on Tony in regards to Dyno


F90 M5 tuned by @HCP.US
Reply With Quote
(#10)
Old
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO's Avatar
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 304
Join Date: Sep 2016
Car: 2016 F22 M235i Mineral White
Default 04-18-2017, 07:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by WakeOfDeath
Where's the Torque?
+1 on Tony in regards to Dyno
We got the car in, put it on the dyno and did a couple of fast baselines, we just did not hook the RPM clamp. But it is a stock B58 engine, so we know what the torque is.
Torque should be around 340ish @5,400 RPMs


Big Boost, designing world's most innovating and efficient turbo kits!
-----------------
BigBoost Instagram: @bigboostturbo
webpage: bigboostusa.com

BigBoost's car: BMW M240i
Stage 3.4 turbo
Current B58 record holder: Currently: 822 WHP
4.8 100-200
10.85 @ 135 1/4 mile


Daily Driver: BMW M235i
BBT stage 3.3 turbo


Garage Queen: 2014 Nissan GT-R
EcuTek ECM and TCM tune, BDM DumpPipes, BDM intakes, BDM full race exhaust, hybrid turbos, E85. 936 WHP
Reply With Quote
(#11)
Old
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO's Avatar
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 304
Join Date: Sep 2016
Car: 2016 F22 M235i Mineral White
Default B58 Turbo Manifold ready - 04-25-2017, 08:40 PM

Ok guys,

So today we have machined the manifold that arrived yesterday from the foundry. We have test fitted it and looks great, we took some pictures to share with you. Port injection is now on CAD design, we hope one month from today we will start some testing.

Name:  B58 Manifold, top view.jpg
Views: 4791
Size:  167.0 KB

Name:  Big Boost B58 manifold 1.jpg
Views: 4430
Size:  39.9 KB

Name:  BigBoost B58 manifold 2.jpg
Views: 4903
Size:  45.1 KB

Name:  BigBoost B58 Manidf.jpg
Views: 4420
Size:  41.1 KB


Big Boost, designing world's most innovating and efficient turbo kits!
-----------------
BigBoost Instagram: @bigboostturbo
webpage: bigboostusa.com

BigBoost's car: BMW M240i
Stage 3.4 turbo
Current B58 record holder: Currently: 822 WHP
4.8 100-200
10.85 @ 135 1/4 mile


Daily Driver: BMW M235i
BBT stage 3.3 turbo


Garage Queen: 2014 Nissan GT-R
EcuTek ECM and TCM tune, BDM DumpPipes, BDM intakes, BDM full race exhaust, hybrid turbos, E85. 936 WHP
Reply With Quote
(#12)
Old
jet_00's Avatar
jet_00 jet_00 is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 6
Join Date: Nov 2016
Car: M235i
Default 04-26-2017, 01:00 AM

Amazing, thanks for sharing !
Reply With Quote
(#13)
Old
JB4OFF JB4OFF is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 121
Join Date: Nov 2016
Car: 340i
Default 04-26-2017, 03:26 PM

What stage is in the images you posted above...? can you post some stock turbo to upgraded for comparison sake? Very interested in these. Are they ball bearing and are they VSR balanced?
Reply With Quote
(#14)
Old
Shorty Shorty is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 65
Join Date: Dec 2016
Car: BMW M140
Default 04-26-2017, 03:39 PM

That looks awesome.

Also very interested in the fuelling mods you have planned.

Looking forward to more updates.
Reply With Quote
(#15)
Old
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO's Avatar
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 304
Join Date: Sep 2016
Car: 2016 F22 M235i Mineral White
Default 04-26-2017, 04:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB4OFF
What stage is in the images you posted above...? can you post some stock turbo to upgraded for comparison sake? Very interested in these. Are they ball bearing and are they VSR balanced?
That is stage 3, we are working on the new impeller and turbine wheel to place in the stock cartridge. VSR balanced. Non-Ball Bearing, but in June we will come up with ball-bearing. In the first post there is a comparison.


Big Boost, designing world's most innovating and efficient turbo kits!
-----------------
BigBoost Instagram: @bigboostturbo
webpage: bigboostusa.com

BigBoost's car: BMW M240i
Stage 3.4 turbo
Current B58 record holder: Currently: 822 WHP
4.8 100-200
10.85 @ 135 1/4 mile


Daily Driver: BMW M235i
BBT stage 3.3 turbo


Garage Queen: 2014 Nissan GT-R
EcuTek ECM and TCM tune, BDM DumpPipes, BDM intakes, BDM full race exhaust, hybrid turbos, E85. 936 WHP
Reply With Quote
(#16)
Old
JB4OFF JB4OFF is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 121
Join Date: Nov 2016
Car: 340i
Default 04-26-2017, 05:26 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO
That is stage 3, we are working on the new impeller and turbine wheel to place in the stock cartridge. VSR balanced. Non-Ball Bearing, but in June we will come up with ball-bearing. In the first post there is a comparison.
Juan,

Thank you for the fast response! Very interested in the ball bearing upgrades. I see these are master power turbos. How do these compare in terms of quality/reliability to the competition?
Reply With Quote
(#17)
Old
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO's Avatar
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 304
Join Date: Sep 2016
Car: 2016 F22 M235i Mineral White
Default 04-26-2017, 05:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB4OFF
Juan,

Thank you for the fast response! Very interested in the ball bearing upgrades. I see these are master power turbos. How do these compare in terms of quality/reliability to the competition?
We chose this brand because we have used these since 2007 in all our turbo kits for many different car manufacturers. We say this by experience after using over 6000 units during this period of time. We have been in the factory located in Brazil and have a very good relationship with the company. It is an all in-house production factory to control it's high standards of quality. In fact, Master Power is the manufacturer for some Mahle turbochargers that are used in OEM well-known car makers.
Compared to other brands, the advantages are very significant. For example, with most turbo makers you can only get what they offer. There is no in-between, with Master Power we can get any turbo made according to our spec needs. Also this turbochargers all come standard with a 7 blade billet aluminum compressor wheel at no additional cost.
As we mentioned above, we found these units very reliable after using many turbos in all this time with less than 1% failures.
At the PRI show 2016 we got many customers telling us stories about how strong the turbos are after abusing them for many many years.


Big Boost, designing world's most innovating and efficient turbo kits!
-----------------
BigBoost Instagram: @bigboostturbo
webpage: bigboostusa.com

BigBoost's car: BMW M240i
Stage 3.4 turbo
Current B58 record holder: Currently: 822 WHP
4.8 100-200
10.85 @ 135 1/4 mile


Daily Driver: BMW M235i
BBT stage 3.3 turbo


Garage Queen: 2014 Nissan GT-R
EcuTek ECM and TCM tune, BDM DumpPipes, BDM intakes, BDM full race exhaust, hybrid turbos, E85. 936 WHP
Reply With Quote
(#18)
Old
JB4OFF JB4OFF is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 121
Join Date: Nov 2016
Car: 340i
Default 04-27-2017, 06:38 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO
We chose this brand because we have used these since 2007 in all our turbo kits for many different car manufacturers. We say this by experience after using over 6000 units during this period of time. We have been in the factory located in Brazil and have a very good relationship with the company. It is an all in-house production factory to control it's high standards of quality. In fact, Master Power is the manufacturer for some Mahle turbochargers that are used in OEM well-known car makers.
Compared to other brands, the advantages are very significant. For example, with most turbo makers you can only get what they offer. There is no in-between, with Master Power we can get any turbo made according to our spec needs. Also this turbochargers all come standard with a 7 blade billet aluminum compressor wheel at no additional cost.
As we mentioned above, we found these units very reliable after using many turbos in all this time with less than 1% failures.
At the PRI show 2016 we got many customers telling us stories about how strong the turbos are after abusing them for many many years.

Interested in the results for the B58 and thank you for thoroughly explaining all that. Much appreciated!
Reply With Quote
(#19)
Old
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO's Avatar
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 304
Join Date: Sep 2016
Car: 2016 F22 M235i Mineral White
Default 04-27-2017, 06:40 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB4OFF
Interested in the results for the B58 and thank you for thoroughly explaining all that. Much appreciated!
We will hopefully get the car in the dyno today just turbo and JB4.


Big Boost, designing world's most innovating and efficient turbo kits!
-----------------
BigBoost Instagram: @bigboostturbo
webpage: bigboostusa.com

BigBoost's car: BMW M240i
Stage 3.4 turbo
Current B58 record holder: Currently: 822 WHP
4.8 100-200
10.85 @ 135 1/4 mile


Daily Driver: BMW M235i
BBT stage 3.3 turbo


Garage Queen: 2014 Nissan GT-R
EcuTek ECM and TCM tune, BDM DumpPipes, BDM intakes, BDM full race exhaust, hybrid turbos, E85. 936 WHP
Reply With Quote
(#20)
Old
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO's Avatar
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 304
Join Date: Sep 2016
Car: 2016 F22 M235i Mineral White
Default 04-27-2017, 06:58 AM

*Update*
This upgrade does fit the RHD vehicles!


Big Boost, designing world's most innovating and efficient turbo kits!
-----------------
BigBoost Instagram: @bigboostturbo
webpage: bigboostusa.com

BigBoost's car: BMW M240i
Stage 3.4 turbo
Current B58 record holder: Currently: 822 WHP
4.8 100-200
10.85 @ 135 1/4 mile


Daily Driver: BMW M235i
BBT stage 3.3 turbo


Garage Queen: 2014 Nissan GT-R
EcuTek ECM and TCM tune, BDM DumpPipes, BDM intakes, BDM full race exhaust, hybrid turbos, E85. 936 WHP
Reply With Quote
(#21)
Old
135idct 135idct is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 444
Join Date: May 2012
Default 04-27-2017, 07:30 AM

too early for the market
Reply With Quote
(#22)
Old
JB4OFF JB4OFF is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 121
Join Date: Nov 2016
Car: 340i
Default 04-27-2017, 08:07 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 135idct
too early for the market
How so? PURE made a stage 1 in late October last year. I asked Peter@Pure if they had plans for stage 2 and he said no. Now my friend spoke to Charles@Pure and he said stage 2 is almost complete and they aren't offering credit to stage 1 for the B58... so Pure is odd to me lately. Dinan is also working on a couple turbos with Vargas for the platform. I'm all for healthy competition.
Reply With Quote
(#23)
Old
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO's Avatar
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 304
Join Date: Sep 2016
Car: 2016 F22 M235i Mineral White
Default 04-27-2017, 08:27 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB4OFF
How so? PURE made a stage 1 in late October last year. I asked Peter@Pure if they had plans for stage 2 and he said no. Now my friend spoke to Charles@Pure and he said stage 2 is almost complete and they aren't offering credit to stage 1 for the B58... so Pure is odd to me lately. Dinan is also working on a couple turbos with Vargas for the platform. I'm all for healthy competition.
I don't think is too soon for the platform, we have had people asking for it since we released the N55 in October last year. Also there are now BMS goodies for it and pretty soon we will have a bench tuning solution, market is growing and people will start needing a bigger turbo solution.


Big Boost, designing world's most innovating and efficient turbo kits!
-----------------
BigBoost Instagram: @bigboostturbo
webpage: bigboostusa.com

BigBoost's car: BMW M240i
Stage 3.4 turbo
Current B58 record holder: Currently: 822 WHP
4.8 100-200
10.85 @ 135 1/4 mile


Daily Driver: BMW M235i
BBT stage 3.3 turbo


Garage Queen: 2014 Nissan GT-R
EcuTek ECM and TCM tune, BDM DumpPipes, BDM intakes, BDM full race exhaust, hybrid turbos, E85. 936 WHP
Reply With Quote
(#24)
Old
JB4OFF JB4OFF is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 121
Join Date: Nov 2016
Car: 340i
Default 04-27-2017, 06:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO
We will hopefully get the car in the dyno today just turbo and JB4.
Any dyno figures or updates?
Reply With Quote
(#25)
Old
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO's Avatar
Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO Juan_BIGBOOST_TURBO is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 304
Join Date: Sep 2016
Car: 2016 F22 M235i Mineral White
Default 04-27-2017, 06:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB4OFF
Any dyno figures or updates?
We got to do a road test for now, tomorrow morning we will get to do some dyno runs. We feel like the car is strong, even though on high RPMs boost gets low and it stops pulling (Map 0), we will get better fuel tomorrow and see if we can run map 2 and see what it can do!


Big Boost, designing world's most innovating and efficient turbo kits!
-----------------
BigBoost Instagram: @bigboostturbo
webpage: bigboostusa.com

BigBoost's car: BMW M240i
Stage 3.4 turbo
Current B58 record holder: Currently: 822 WHP
4.8 100-200
10.85 @ 135 1/4 mile


Daily Driver: BMW M235i
BBT stage 3.3 turbo


Garage Queen: 2014 Nissan GT-R
EcuTek ECM and TCM tune, BDM DumpPipes, BDM intakes, BDM full race exhaust, hybrid turbos, E85. 936 WHP
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
Copyright 2007 - 2019, N54tech.com