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Default 03-11-2018, 07:08 PM

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Are you running stock timing tables in the BEF? I am very surprised to see so much much timing in N55Techs post above (Thanks for the review N55Tech )
The BEF tests are done with E56, I mixed 102 ron fuel (97 aki) with ethanol. To evaluate timing I used my previous logs with stock dme file. I tested this same mixture and the dme aplied basically the same timing, or even more, and with more boost!

Look at this logs with stock dme file. No way to run this timing with regular gas.
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Default 03-11-2018, 08:55 PM

The best way to evaluate timing is on a dyno where you can target minimum best timing. e.g. add as much timing only as power is going up when you add it.


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Default 03-12-2018, 09:03 AM

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So actually you dont know if all that timing in your BEF is making extra power? I heard you mention before that north of 8* doesn't make much more power...?
We've set the timing profiles close to where we believe MBT is for our various boost levels and fuel suggestions. If you are going to take the reins and dial in your own timing curve then you'll need to rely on your own tuning judgement and data to fully evaluate the changes you're making.


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Default 03-12-2018, 09:27 AM

Hey im having some issues downloading the free maps for the BEF. Any specific reason why!
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Default 03-12-2018, 11:53 AM

Nothing else reported on the download link.


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Default 03-13-2018, 07:34 AM

Sorry if this has been covered but are the JB4_F_EWG_xxxx maps for use with cars running stage 2 turbos or will there be additional maps created?

Also, I'm confused on what Map should be used for E85 mixtures below 50%, according to their descriptions E85 and RACE can both be used. I typically run 30-40% mixture with 100% meth CM10 nozzle, which map should be used?
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Default 03-13-2018, 08:14 AM

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Sorry if this has been covered but are the JB4_F_EWG_xxxx maps for use with cars running stage 2 turbos or will there be additional maps created?

Also, I'm confused on what Map should be used for E85 mixtures below 50%, according to their descriptions E85 and RACE can both be used. I typically run 30-40% mixture with 100% meth CM10 nozzle, which map should be used?
so i had issues with the race map and 30-40% e85... like misfiring at 4-6k issues.... terry had me flash the e85 map and my issues seemed to go away.


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Default 03-13-2018, 08:32 AM

Sorry is it so right.
1. I only buy the mhd flasher, no monitor no maps
2. install only mhd flash 0
3. Install the newest Jb4 flash for my car
4. choise a bef from the zip and install this

Which is now the best map for my car. 435i EWG, with intercooler, ******** and exhaust. My car is running ultimate 102 from Aral. I have all hardware install from Jb4. Is there a good bef Map, or should i make my own, Sorry for all the question.
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Default 03-13-2018, 08:37 AM

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Sorry is it so right.
1. I only buy the mhd flasher, no monitor no maps
2. install only mhd flash 0
3. Install the newest Jb4 flash for my car
4. choise a bef from the zip and install this.
Exactly

But i am not sure, which BEF you should use
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Default 03-13-2018, 08:41 AM

If using 0-40% E85 you can start with RACE, if using 40% E85+ you can start with E85.


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Default 03-13-2018, 08:42 AM

Ok thanks for the rush answer. Ok so i install the race map 0-40% e85. I don’t won’t to mix the fuel, the ultimate 102 is enough for me.

@terry is it possible to write where to put the downloaded file from the zip? Should I connect my tablet with the pc and transfer it in the mhd folder? Sorry for the question.

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Default 03-13-2018, 02:18 PM

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Ok thanks for the rush answer. Ok so i install the race map 0-40% e85. I don’t won’t to mix the fuel, the ultimate 102 is enough for me.

@terry is it possible to write where to put the downloaded file from the zip? Should I connect my tablet with the pc and transfer it in the mhd folder? Sorry for the question.
The mhd app found my file when I put in the download folder. It was there as soon as clicked back end flash in the mhd app.
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Default 03-13-2018, 03:11 PM

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Ok thanks for the rush answer. Ok so i install the race map 0-40% e85. I donít wonít to mix the fuel, the ultimate 102 is enough for me.

@terry is it possible to write where to put the downloaded file from the zip? Should I connect my tablet with the pc and transfer it in the mhd folder? Sorry for the question.
You just copy them to the root directory on the device.


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Default 03-14-2018, 03:04 AM

Heck I might as well piggyback off of some of the questions, Terry: Bigger turbo, FBO with stock fueling I'm going to use the RACE BEF. Will this be appropriate?


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Default 03-14-2018, 06:05 AM

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Heck I might as well piggyback off of some of the questions, Terry: Bigger turbo, FBO with stock fueling I'm going to use the RACE BEF. Will this be appropriate?
Yes it will be good. Start with low boost map and increase 1psi after review logs...



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Default 03-14-2018, 06:15 AM

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Heck I might as well piggyback off of some of the questions, Terry: Bigger turbo, FBO with stock fueling I'm going to use the RACE BEF. Will this be appropriate?
Thats where I'm now, same setup till I get PI or Meth. It fine @16psi max, anything more will crash the hpfp.


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Default 03-14-2018, 06:29 AM

check the purestage 2 turbo thread in N55 section ,
he added a LPFP and is getting like 20 psi
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Default 03-14-2018, 06:36 AM

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check the purestage 2 turbo thread in N55 section ,
he added a LPFP and is getting like 20 psi
My understanding is. If the lpfp is supporting the hpfp just fine, then is the hpfp that can't keep up with the fuel demand.


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Default 03-14-2018, 05:36 PM

The boost under target is going to need to be disabled in the BEF one way or another, as we want to disassociate the factory boost control from the JB4 boost control under PWG ISO. Your best bet for tuning help is recording logs of the specific issues and posting in the F PWG ISO thread.


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Default 03-15-2018, 03:12 PM

On the BEF maps keep the logs, feedback, and any problem reports coming. We need to ensure everything is working smoothly at these levels before we start cranking up power.

You can post EWG based BEF Logs in this thread as needed. For PWG BEF logs, use the F PWG ISO thread instead.


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Quick question, will the exhaust burble settings/adjustment be available via the app/flasher only or does a person need to also purchase a map pack?

I am wondering because I intend on purchasing the app/flasher and using it to unlock the dme and upload a bef for my jb4 (via trebila).
It will be a flash option, available whatever the map you flash, even stage 0 (oem map).

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Im not sure why will this updates help us on just BEF. Unless there are some changes on stage 0 and we need to flash again, save bin and send to Terry.
Am I missing something?
I simply post all app updates. Some users here are testing both flash only maps and bms flash+jb4 maps.

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MHD is adding those options and others soon via flash time selections, so it doens't make sense for us to also incorporate them in to the BEF maps directly. I'm sure Martial can provide more of an update on when you can expect to see them released.
Burble is being tested on the different platforms (n55 x3, s55), cold start delete is working, speed limiter will be added too soon.

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should I join beta program to see that maps are without any extra options? beta program will open my eyes?
If you understood how MHD and flash options works, yes it would open your eyes.

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Cool sounds like it will be slick when it comes out. As mentioned above performance comes first, but having these as secondary option is a nice feature.

I'm most concerned about cold start delete. Re-phrase my niebors are most concerned about cold start delete hahaha
Cold start delete will be the very first available flash option.
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Default 03-19-2018, 08:33 AM

Question, well more of an FYI followed by a question. I just flashed MHD stage 0 and updated JB4 to ISO 10 T8 and when I went to mhd to load the back end flash all the PWG race maps kept erroring saying not compatible with DME. However on 3rd try it was able to successfully flash PWG2 Race3. Is that normal for others in the beta? Just curious. Car seems to be running fine and so far way more responsive in the pedal. I'll submit logs later when I get time.




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Default 03-19-2018, 08:36 AM

If it loaded you should be fine.


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Default 03-19-2018, 12:18 PM

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If it loaded you should be fine.
Yeah every thing worked so no issues. I was just curious if the DME not compatible error I got several times is something others saw too or not or if I am just a unique snowflake So far so good, will log test soon. Thanks Terry!




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