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Default 09-23-2017, 02:53 AM

is there any benefit to purchasing the S63TU JB4 and using the firmware you have posted up on the first page? I'm disappointed that this didn't work out but I also understand because the market for folks with N63TU's to mod is probably no where near as large and the N54/55 and S63/TU, S55 etc. Still no update on the intake?
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Default 09-23-2017, 09:25 AM

If by benefit you mean adding 100+hp to the car tuning it, then yes.

No ETA on intake. It's in the queue but isn't a high priority item.


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Default 09-23-2017, 11:40 AM

Adding 100hp and a CEL.

That’s why I leased the X3 instead of an X5. I can tune the N55 easily, and hopefully you’ll have this all straightened out in 3 years and then I can get a proper V8.


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Default 10-02-2017, 11:37 PM

I think I understand BMS's position on disabling auto clearing of the CEL and the indefinite beta status of the N63TU JB4.

I assume that the biggest liability comes when users get their emissions tested and inconsistencies become red flags. Enough red flags associated with BMS and next thing you know the state emissions testing folks are notifying the feds. Under the current laws, there are no clear protections for BMS against the feds coming after them.

Until clearly written laws provide exemptions and or protections for BMS, BMS has to protect itself from it's user base inadvertently/unintentionally getting BMS into big, potentially business ending trouble with the feds.

Provided that my very simplified understanding is remotely correct. What would the owner of N63TU powered vehicle with the JB4 Beta W/ BCM have to do prior to emissions testing or a dealership service, to keep Terry and BMS from getting bad letters from the feds?

Is it as simple as plugging in the factory MAFs, switching to map 0 and clearing any codes and/or shadow codes?
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Default 11-28-2017, 10:36 PM

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So 600/635 wheel. Whats the M5 making?

BTW those intakes look way better than the maze of ***** from N63intakes. Maybe a set of Pures and *** next?
Maze of **** ? i did this set up in 2015 no one wanted to remove the cross bars and intake like this was not performing well. That's why so called maze of **** was the only way to go.



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Default 12-01-2017, 02:35 AM

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Maze of **** ? i did this set up in 2015 no one wanted to remove the cross bars and intake like this was not performing well. That's why so called maze of **** was the only way to go.

Not performing well?? . what do you mean?


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Default 12-04-2017, 05:12 PM

It's crazy how much power these TU's make, i've started to look at a couple CPO 550's at the dealership. I thought it was all hype at first, but it truly seems like this is just a detuned m5.


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Default 12-13-2017, 12:20 PM

Yup, throw some STG1 Turbos on the N63TU and/Meth + E30
650whp/700wtq i bet


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Default 12-13-2017, 11:44 PM

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Maze of **** ? i did this set up in 2015 no one wanted to remove the cross bars and intake like this was not performing well. That's why so called maze of **** was the only way to go.

Perfect intake placement for when I'm going 65mph and it rains.
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Default 12-14-2017, 02:09 AM

So upper 5xx possible on stock turbos with with BCM wires + e30?


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Default 01-01-2018, 05:17 PM

Terry does it make any differents to which side TMAP sensor plug is going to from BCM module?


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Default 01-01-2018, 05:24 PM

For the stand alone BCM it does not matter as long as the factory wires don't get mixed up.


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Default 01-17-2018, 09:59 PM

Terry can you post default settings on the first page.


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Default 01-18-2018, 10:54 AM

Will do


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Default 02-12-2018, 09:15 PM

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Hey guys,

Finally was able to get our n63tu back to the dyno. Changes since last time are simply adding in 3.5bar TMAP sensors raising the tuning ceiling from ~21psi to ~36psi. Of course, the factory turbos peaked out around ~25psi. But at least the sensor range is there when we need it.

Car continues to impress. SAE figures were around 592whp IIRC. They added STD back to winpep8.
Still gotta cut oem wire to install the BCM?


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Default 02-13-2018, 09:48 AM

You can remove the passanger side intercooler to reach the BCM plugs.


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Hello. I'm new to the forum. I became a happy owner of bmw f10 550i 2014 n63tu. I could not understand what I needed to order for maximum power from my car. I'm planning to install a ******* ******** / exhaust / kn filter bms + bcm + meth kit. I want to know the complete list of what I need from Burgermotorsport for ordering. I am from Europe can I get jb4 without CEL.
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Default 02-14-2018, 03:11 PM

As it stands right now you'd need an N63_B JB4, S63TU BCM, then to unplug MAF sensors, and install the TU firmware in the first post.

As for the WMI kit use the F10 stealth tank and kit, then you have to find some way to mount dual CM7 nozzles in your chargepipes or IC outlets.


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Default 02-14-2018, 03:57 PM

Terry, no need to cut oem wires for BCM i remember u posted that somewhere before just wondering if there any changes and not needing that anymore?


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Default 02-15-2018, 04:54 AM

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As it stands right now you'd need an N63_B JB4, S63TU BCM, then to unplug MAF sensors, and install the TU firmware in the first post.

As for the WMI kit use the F10 stealth tank and kit, then you have to find some way to mount dual CM7 nozzles in your chargepipes or IC outlets.
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As it stands right now you'd need an N63_B JB4, S63TU BCM, then to unplug MAF sensors, and install the TU firmware in the first post.

As for the WMI kit use the F10 stealth tank and kit, then you have to find some way to mount dual CM7 nozzles in your chargepipes or IC outlets.
Hi Terry,

So for 2014 X5 N63TU if I want to extract max power as of now, I'll need that above mentioned setup, but I will need 3.5bar TMAP sensors too correct? Where can I buy them - is it from n20 one?
Thank you very much!

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So I installed this setup with bcm and ******* ***** on a 2015 x5 recently. The other day he launched it and forgot to turn traction control off and managed to snap the driveshaft. Never seen that before on a bmw lol
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So I installed this setup with bcm and ******* ***** on a 2015 x5 recently. The other day he launched it and forgot to turn traction control off and managed to snap the driveshaft. Never seen that before on a bmw lol
Especially on an X5!!! I've seen some hard launches but man, got a photo of the carnage?


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Especially on an X5!!! I've seen some hard launches but man, got a photo of the carnage?







Twisted like it was nothing lol. New driveshaft is $1192 from bmw if anybody is interested😬
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Default 06-06-2018, 09:04 PM

Woah, that is nuts!!


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