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Default 10-30-2019, 10:04 AM

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The install guide link in the starter post is "404 not found" for me. Is there another link I can try?
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Default 11-08-2019, 05:21 PM

Hey Terry,
I looked through the whole post to find instructions on where to locate the fuel sensor to attach the green wire. Can you upload instructions on where its located? thanks.
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Default 11-08-2019, 07:19 PM

There is a photo around here somewhere, I'll see if I can find it.


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Default 11-08-2019, 11:43 PM

Hi Terry,

Finally got to do a few pulls for you to check out before I move onto map 2.

Thanks in advance!

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Default 11-09-2019, 10:41 PM

Looks good to me, go for it!


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Default 11-10-2019, 08:11 AM

Hey Terry,

My brother had a Stage 1 on his 2017 GLC 43. He recently took it to the dealer regarding a buzzing sound from the engine bay. They replaced the boost pressure control (pressure transducer). When we tried reinstalling the Stage 1 we are getting a CEL. Is this the same as the SENT pressure sensor?

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Default 11-10-2019, 09:00 AM

They won't change the sensor type.. Maybe an issue with the Stage1 board itself? Good time to upgrade it to a JB4.


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Default 11-10-2019, 05:35 PM

Will upgrade to the JB4 and keep you posted. Thanks

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Default 11-11-2019, 09:29 PM

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Looks good to me, go for it!
Uploading Map 2 tonight. very excited to see what becomes of it.

What values should I be looking for? Excuse my ignorance. I am coming from the world of subarus and there I was looking for knocking and boost creep.

Thanks in advance Terry.

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Default 11-12-2019, 01:55 PM

Hey Terry,

Heres a pull on map 1, I was wondering should I go straight to map 2 from here or mix in some e85 first?

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Default 11-20-2019, 04:08 AM

Hey Terry, Ive been noticing quit a bit of power inconsistencies. I Feel like my car had better race times without the JB4 because of the throttle/shifting issues.
1. Car cuts off the throttle as shown in one of the logs.
2. Also the Car pulls hard while approaching redline then shifts and right after the shift the car loses much of its power then starts taking off again. Its almost like a lag, Its a rough upshift (WOT) then right after hesitates a bit then takes off again. If you look at the RPM line in the logs, instead of the RPM climbing again it goes flat for a moment then starts to rise again almost like a U shape instead of a V. I do not notice this when I put the car back to stock Map 0.


Can you tell me what could possibly cause this and some potential fixes? I read up on the BMW forums and many other JB4 or JB+ users experienced this. Some found a fix using the newer firmware and some did not. Ive posted a few logs here. let me know what you think.

Running Map 5 with E30 Fuel. In sport+ mode. 2017 C43
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Default 11-20-2019, 05:45 PM

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Hey Terry, Ive been noticing quit a bit of power inconsistencies. I Feel like my car had better race times without the JB4 because of the throttle/shifting issues.
A couple of your logs show a little throttle closure at the shift so that is likely what you're feeling. Emailed a mapping suggestion to see if it has any effect.


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Default 11-20-2019, 05:46 PM

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Hey Terry,

Heres a pull on map 1, I was wondering should I go straight to map 2 from here or mix in some e85 first?

Thanks,
Let's mix in a little E85 first then try map2.


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Default 11-20-2019, 08:52 PM

I install jb4 on glc 43 amg 2017 this week. Jb4 work great with this suv amg version?

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Default 11-22-2019, 09:53 PM

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I install jb4 on glc 43 amg 2017 this week. Jb4 work great with this suv amg version?

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Yes shouldn't be any issues!


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Default 11-26-2019, 01:35 PM

Hey Terry,

I mixed in 4gallons of e85 and switched to map 2 here are a couple of logs, seems like im getting less boost than I was on map 1 with just 91
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Hey Terry,

I mixed in 4gallons of e85 and switched to map 2 here are a couple of logs, seems like im getting less boost than I was on map 1 with just 91
Looks like IAT isn't reading properly on your SENT system. What are ambient temps?

You can step up to map3 next.


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Default 11-27-2019, 11:56 AM

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Looks like IAT isn't reading properly on your SENT system. What are ambient temps?

You can step up to map3 next.
during those runs it was around 70f
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Default 11-29-2019, 08:49 PM

Hello, I bought a new JB4 from BMS last week for my 2018 C43 and I installed it without any issues. Overall, the install was very simple and the piggyback & mobile app work great! Map 1 has a noticeable difference and Map 2 is even better! I am running 93 octane but otherwise no other mods.

Please see attached logs and let me know how they look.

Few questions:
-Is it safe to continue running Map 2?
-Do I need to update my firmware or can I assume it is up to date since I just bought it?
-Are there are any plans to allow control of the exhaust valves (?CANflap) on the AMG performance exhaust like some BMW owners have with their JB4s?

Thanks
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Default 12-14-2019, 08:52 AM

Can Terry or anyone @BMS let me know would advantages I might recognize from implementing the BCM? I have a JB4 on my 2015 W212 E400 with no other mods. Run map 2 usually and 93 Octane.
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Can Terry or anyone @BMS let me know would advantages I might recognize from implementing the BCM? I have a JB4 on my 2015 W212 E400 with no other mods. Run map 2 usually and 93 Octane.
Hi, I have a 2016 E400. How are you enjoying the JB4? Did it make a big difference for you?
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Default 12-19-2019, 11:30 AM

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Can Terry or anyone @BMS let me know would advantages I might recognize from implementing the BCM? I have a JB4 on my 2015 W212 E400 with no other mods. Run map 2 usually and 93 Octane.
It would be more useful for the higher boost maps only if you're not hitting target. Got any logs you can post so I can evaluate for you?


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Default 12-23-2019, 12:27 PM

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Hi, I have a 2016 E400. How are you enjoying the JB4? Did it make a big difference for you?
I'm quite happy with it. The engine (as far as I can tell) is basically identical to the 450/43 models right down to the turbo hardware, so simply pushing more boost through it seems to get it closer to those power levels. BMS can confirm or deny my assumptions there, but I believe the engine hardware is basically identical for the 15-19 400/43/450 motors as I could not find different part numbers for the turbos.
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Default 12-23-2019, 12:28 PM

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It would be more useful for the higher boost maps only if you're not hitting target. Got any logs you can post so I can evaluate for you?
I'm currently traveling for the holidays without the car, so I'll grab some recents and post back in early January. Thanks!
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I'm currently traveling for the holidays without the car, so I'll grab some recents and post back in early January. Thanks!
Happy Holidays!


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