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Default 06-02-2019, 05:28 PM

hi @Terry
Can I use the JB4+BEF without the ODB cable? Im interested in using apps like Torque.
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Default 06-02-2019, 05:49 PM

The JB4 uses the OBDII for it's tuning so you need to leave it in, and do all logging via the JB4 app.


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Default 06-02-2019, 05:53 PM

Thanks @Terry

one more question, is scaling on the Sport Display correct? looks like is not.

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The JB4 uses the OBDII for it's tuning so you need to leave it in, and do all logging via the JB4 app.
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No those are just imaginary numbers the tuner enters. I think we left them too high last go around.


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Default 06-02-2019, 06:11 PM

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No those are just imaginary numbers the tuner enters. I think we left them too high last go around.
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Default 06-03-2019, 05:59 AM

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No those are just imaginary numbers the tuner enters. I think we left them too high last go around.
@Terry but the HP displayed are accurate?

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Default 06-03-2019, 07:36 AM

@hermesromeror, no, the display hp/tq are just imaginary/fake/manipulated by the tuner. If you want know the real power, go to a dyno.
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Default 06-03-2019, 11:23 AM

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hi @Terry
Can I use the JB4+BEF without the ODB cable? Im interested in using apps like Torque.
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I didn’t use cable. I had “Thor” wifi dongle that plugs in into OBD2 and were able to connect wirelessly and flash np
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Default 06-03-2019, 01:36 PM

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@hermesromeror, no, the display hp/tq are just imaginary/fake/manipulated by the tuner. If you want know the real power, go to a dyno.
@Vic440 Thanks!
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Default 06-03-2019, 03:32 PM

Here's a little sneak peak of my Pure Stage 1





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Default 06-06-2019, 11:21 AM

Looks good! Hope to hit 500whp with it!


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Default 06-06-2019, 02:17 PM

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Looks good! Hope to hit 500whp with it!
Hi Terry... From what I'm seeing, can't we get close to that with WMI and BEF? Next question... What's your estimate on the limits of the stock engine and transmission, HP/TQ wise?
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Default 06-06-2019, 08:54 PM

There are a lot of variables... While it's probably possible to hit 500whp on the stock turbo it's not going to be the sort of tune you want to really race with. Would be a "dyno glory" situation. With the PS1 I think you can probably hit 500whp on a good race possible tune. We'll find out soon enough!

Engine will take a ton as long as it's not knocking... Trans has been fine at 500whp levels in our PS2 testing but it's still a bit of an unknown.


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Default 06-06-2019, 08:58 PM

Jboe, Look into the XHP trans flash if you want to race the AT at high boost levels. There’s a stage 2 and a stage 3.

If you’re MT like me, your (our) **** clutch will be a limiting factor at low gear heavy pulls. My clutch slips when really going for it from 1st to 2nd.


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Default 06-06-2019, 08:59 PM

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There are a lot of variables... While it's probably possible to hit 500whp on the stock turbo it's not going to be the sort of tune you want to really race with. Would be a "dyno glory" situation. With the PS1 I think you can probably hit 500whp on a good race possible tune. We'll find out soon enough!

Engine will take a ton as long as it's not knocking... Trans has been fine at 500whp levels in our PS2 testing but it's still a bit of an unknown.
Thanks for the info... sounds good. I'm definitely watching the development of all these options.
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Default 06-06-2019, 11:51 PM

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Jboe, Look into the XHP trans flash if you want to race the AT at high boost levels. There’s a stage 2 and a stage 3.

If you’re MT like me, your (our) **** clutch will be a limiting factor at low gear heavy pulls. My clutch slips when really going for it from 1st to 2nd.
Thank you, sir. Great info.
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Default 06-08-2019, 07:47 AM

So I reread the entire thread and didn't see the below answer. Setup: Car is a 340i with catted vrsf and agency power intake. Currently running map 3 of the JB4.

What is the whp/torque gain doing the MHD BEF vs just keeping the JB4 map 3?
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Default 06-08-2019, 08:39 AM

We haven't really quantified that yet but the gains even on pump gas are significant. I'd guess around 20-30whp in areas of the curve.


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Default 06-09-2019, 09:07 AM

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We haven't really quantified that yet but the gains even on pump gas are significant. I'd guess around 20-30whp in areas of the curve.
So on 93 octane, you're saying you've seen 20 to 30 whp gains over just JB4 (on map 3) in my particular set up (vrsf catted, intake)?
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Default 06-09-2019, 10:03 AM

Yes in that range. While boost isn't dramatically different we pull a few tricks with timing and fueling that help power generation.


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Default 06-10-2019, 10:03 AM

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Yes in that range. While boost isn't dramatically different we pull a few tricks with timing and fueling that help power generation.
Hey terry if I’m running jb4 back end flash with xhp stage 3 with e40 mix Catt less down pipe dinan jntake
I wanted to see can I run map 4 or should I strictly run map 3 with the mhd back end flash with ethanol ?

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Default 06-10-2019, 10:32 AM

Here is me trying jb4 map 3 with mhd back end flash e40 mix. My mods are dinan intake vrsf catt less down pipe and mppsk 340i and xhp stage 3 flash
Take a look at my map 3 log
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Map 4 data log with same mods e40 mix
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Default 06-10-2019, 11:53 AM

EWG connector right? Set FF to 60 and relog map3 and map4, so we can get boost up closer to the intended target.


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Default 06-10-2019, 11:57 AM

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EWG connector right? Set FF to 60 and relog map3 and map4, so we can get boost up closer to the intended target.
Ok I will do so and terry is it ok to run map 4 ?
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