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Default E50 + Meth - 10-28-2018, 07:53 PM

NAnyone else tinkering with E85 blends in their b58?

Im currently at e50 (4 ga e85 + 3.5 ga 91), 100% meth via dual CM7, deepee, 65 additive, fua 10, fol 60

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Default 10-31-2018, 09:26 AM

Log looks really healthy and strong, man I want a ride in this LOL.
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Default 10-31-2018, 09:37 AM

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Log looks really healthy and strong, man I want a ride in this LOL.
Yeah she feels really strong and pulls kije a freight train lol
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Default 10-31-2018, 03:22 PM

What other mods do you have? Any 1/4 mile times? Looks like a beast!


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Default 10-31-2018, 03:27 PM

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What other mods do you have? Any 1/4 mile times? Looks like a beast!
Just the mods I listed in the first post. I have draggy runs of 12.0@119 with 2.0 60'
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What other mods do you have? Any 1/4 mile times? Looks like a beast!
Just the mods I listed in the first post. I have draggy runs of 12.0@119 with 2.0 60'
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Default 10-31-2018, 11:40 PM

Damn must be nice running E50 your car must be fun to drive!


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Default 11-01-2018, 05:19 AM

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Damn must be nice running E50 your car must be fun to drive!
I started with e30 for a long time then went e40 and now e50.... might try e60 next.
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Default 11-01-2018, 10:11 AM

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I started with e30 for a long time then went e40 and now e50.... might try e60 next.
Might as well go full E85 at this rate


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Default 11-01-2018, 12:33 PM

That boost and timing are both insane. I would love to see full E85 too some day. I'm amazed the turbo is holding boost that high. Such an improvement over the N55. I'd love the idea of a B58 only running E85 and able to produce 500WHP


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Default 11-02-2018, 09:33 AM

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Might as well go full E85 at this rate
Yeah I might just go straight to the e85... I'll keep you guys posted.
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Default 11-04-2018, 11:44 AM

Well I ran e70 yesterday and it really taxes the fuel system pretty good at WOT. But at part throttle she runs beast. So back to e50 fuel now and she is running great. Just thought I'd share my updates.
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Default 11-04-2018, 09:12 PM

Ethanol really helps on this platform. I've run up to full E85 but at lower boost levels and E98 in the meth tank. Timing gets near perfect with enough ethanol. But without a reflash or fueling hardware upgrades, you have to ride the thin line of what's too much ethanol or too much boost.

Since your FF is maxed out, you are not holding boost in the higher RPM's. If you raise your individual FF by RPM values, you should be able to find the right curve to keep global FF lower. But then you might need to lower your ethanol content to not kill FPH.


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Default 11-05-2018, 05:06 AM

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Ethanol really helps on this platform. I've run up to full E85 but at lower boost levels and E98 in the meth tank. Timing gets near perfect with enough ethanol. But without a reflash or fueling hardware upgrades, you have to ride the thin line of what's too much ethanol or too much boost.

Since your FF is maxed out, you are not holding boost in the higher RPM's. If you raise your individual FF by RPM values, you should be able to find the right curve to keep global FF lower. But then you might need to lower your ethanol content to not kill FPH.

Yeah I was thinking about trying to tweak FF by RPM to see if would run better. As of right now the way it sits she hauls ass.
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Default 11-05-2018, 08:00 PM

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Ethanol really helps on this platform. I've run up to full E85 but at lower boost levels and E98 in the meth tank. Timing gets near perfect with enough ethanol. But without a reflash or fueling hardware upgrades, you have to ride the thin line of what's too much ethanol or too much boost.

Since your FF is maxed out, you are not holding boost in the higher RPM's. If you raise your individual FF by RPM values, you should be able to find the right curve to keep global FF lower. But then you might need to lower your ethanol content to not kill FPH.
I started from the basics with duty bias at 50 across the board and lowered my neth additive to 50 and the target is much closer. Needs some more tweeking but so far the e50 is holding strong
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