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Default 11-16-2017, 05:33 AM

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So you are using ethanol injection from external tank, and injection from main tank?

Is that the BMS dual spacer for the alcohol? How is the TBI from the main tank sprayed, is it in the charge pipe too? I havenít seen any pics so unsure how it all works.
Actually we threaded our spacer for both methanol nozzles and fuel nozzles.
A quick connect fuel adapter "TEE" is used to get fuel out of the stock fuel system to a solenoid which is controlled by a Hobb's switch, then a fuel line and fuel fogger on the plate. The meth is controlled by the FSB on the JB4.


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Default 11-16-2017, 05:37 AM

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No, I didn't run any ethanol in the races. I might next time.
How does the ethonal map 19-20lbs feel vs the 24 lbs?

My timing is solid with E... Just a tad over 15 degrees
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Default 11-16-2017, 05:40 AM

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Default 11-17-2017, 11:17 AM

Anyone else getting 15 deg of timing with add 40 map 7?
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Default 11-17-2017, 11:30 AM

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Anyone else getting 15 deg of timing with add 40 map 7?
Yeah my timing is around 15 with 40 add
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Default 11-17-2017, 11:45 AM

Bullit, do you have your pipe down removed? Do you run any FUA setting? I have tried higher boost last few days but get hesitation top of 4th. Never get it with just 40add.
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Default 11-17-2017, 12:02 PM

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Bullit, do you have your pipe down removed? Do you run any FUA setting? I have tried higher boost last few days but get hesitation top of 4th. Never get it with just 40add.
I have a D P and i dont have any fua issues or problems woth more boost. I'm on e30. What fuel are you running?
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Default 11-17-2017, 12:20 PM

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I have a D P and i dont have any fua issues or problems woth more boost. I'm on e30. What fuel are you running?
Spraying 100% meth via dual cm7. In main tank 99ron SUL with a 20% toluene mix.

Next week will be testing spraying ethanol and Boostane in main tank. Will test all combo to see what works.

I might be premature with the hesitation as only did short testing. Was cold and traction was an issue too.
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Default 11-20-2017, 07:16 PM

Do you have any logs with your 20 psi and 24 psi runs?
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Bullit, do you have your pipe down removed? Do you run any FUA setting? I have tried higher boost last few days but get hesitation top of 4th. Never get it with just 40add.
Stock **. FUA = 10.


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Default 11-20-2017, 07:30 PM

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Do you have any logs with your 20 psi and 24 psi runs?
PM me. I don't post raw logs online since they contain your VIN now.


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Anybody seen this thread yet?

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49979


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Default 11-20-2017, 08:12 PM

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Holy crap. I am officially done messing with this platform.


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PM sent bro
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Default 11-20-2017, 08:54 PM

What additive was he running.
With the cooler weather coming you can’t run high boost without more fuel. That’s the problem with ablsout maps on this platform.


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Default 11-20-2017, 11:59 PM

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Feel sorry for the guy, but are there any lessons we can take from this?

Is there a way to have pre-diagnosed this happening?

If say he was logging regularly with 6cylinder timing enabled, would this have picked up the fuel injector rail not working?

Any other thoughts?
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Default 11-28-2017, 11:02 AM

Its crazy that when Terry dynoed their shop car it made best power on the dyno with 21~ psi but in the real world 24 psi yielded higher trap speed for more hp.
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Default 11-28-2017, 12:10 PM

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Its crazy that when Terry dynoed their shop car it made best power on the dyno with 21~ psi but in the real world 24 psi yielded higher trap speed for more hp.
Yeah, there's lot of variables in play here. Terry's dyno testing was very early on and there have been multiple firmware revisions since then. Also, dyno testing does not 100% simulate (especially on an fixed mass inertia dyno) real world driving.

So take everything with a grain of salt.


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Default 11-28-2017, 12:12 PM

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Feel sorry for the guy, but are there any lessons we can take from this?

Is there a way to have pre-diagnosed this happening?

If say he was logging regularly with 6cylinder timing enabled, would this have picked up the fuel injector rail not working?

Any other thoughts?
The only thing that makes me think about this is the fact that my Cyl 1 timing is ALWAYS worse than all other cylinders. I would like to know if other people notice this, too.

I even swapped the plugs and coils between Cyl 1 and 2 and it made absolutely no difference.


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Default 11-28-2017, 12:31 PM

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Yeah, there's lot of variables in play here. Terry's dyno testing was very early on and there have been multiple firmware revisions since then. Also, dyno testing does not 100% simulate (especially on an fixed mass inertia dyno) real world driving.

So take everything with a grain of salt.
Im going to try 70 add and see how she feels. Basted on real world data, it seems to have the most power.

Did you try it with out the spoof timing at 70...?
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Default 11-28-2017, 12:51 PM

You said you were running 98% ethanol in the meth tank with 91 pump gas?
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Im going to try 70 add and see how she feels. Basted on real world data, it seems to have the most power.

Did you try it with out the spoof timing at 70...?
I did not try it at the NFZ event, but I have on the street since then. Technically, it's safer without the spoof and I can't really say I "feel" the difference, as it's probably minimal.

Too many variables in other areas on a boosted car, really.


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Default 11-28-2017, 01:09 PM

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You said you were running 98% ethanol in the meth tank with 91 pump gas?
At NFZ I was running 5 gallons 91 octane pump gas + 32 oz. of "Race Gas" additive + Torco "T98" with dual CM7's.


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At NFZ I was running 5 gallons 91 octane pump gas + 32 oz. of "Race Gas" additive + Torco "T98" with dual CM7's.
Thanks for the feedback bro. Im going to try 50% meth and 50% e85 and see how she likes it
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Thanks for the feedback bro. Im going to try 50% meth and 50% e85 and see how she likes it
Nice. I plan on throwing straight E85 into the meth tank to see how it goes. If I burn a pump or solenoid, oh well. You never know till you try!


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