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View Poll Results: Which turbo would you go with?
Vargas N54 "GC" Stock location 16 19.28%
Pure N54 Stage2 29 34.94%
RB Super RB EVO 5 6.02%
MPP Stage 3 12 14.46%
Motiv Single Turbo Kit XR 95-67 21 25.30%
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Default Turbo Poll - 11-18-2016, 05:34 PM

My stock turbo's are rattling so bad, I'm look for new turbo's that if I choose can give me huge power, reliability as car is used as a daily. Future proof option to achieve big power if wanted together with fueling.

Vargas N54 "GC" Stock location
Pure N54 Stage2
RB Super RB EVO
MPP Stage 3
Motiv Single Turbo Kit

Other considerations:
-Support
-Warranty
-Ease of installation
-Longevity
-Low RPM power
-Price

If I've missed an option let me know.

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Default 11-18-2016, 05:40 PM

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My stock turbo's are rattling so bad, I'm look for new turbo's that if I choose can give me huge power, reliability as car is used as a daily. Future proof option to achieve big power if wanted together with fueling.

Vargas N54 "GC" Stock location
Pure N54 Stage2
RB Super RB EVO
MPP Stage 3
Motiv Single Turbo Kit

Pure or mmp will be your best bet.. the new GC are looking promising.
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Default 11-18-2016, 05:56 PM

On a side note I adjusted my wastegates which have never been adjusted before and my rattle is now 90% gone. The back one is cake, the front you can shim the actuator bracket with washers by removing the vacuum canisters, radiator fan, and front inlet. I dreaded adjusting the turbos, but it was actually easy and well worth it. At least for now..

Otherwise I'm waiting for mmp cast versions, hopefully in the next 6 months or so!


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Default 11-18-2016, 06:49 PM

Hybrid Twins: Vargas GC
Bottom Mount: Motiv
Top Mount: VM/ACF


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Default 11-18-2016, 07:14 PM

GC's here with no complaints so there's my vote lol
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Default 11-18-2016, 07:16 PM

Pure or single


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Default 11-18-2016, 07:25 PM

Pure all day :P


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Default 11-18-2016, 09:02 PM

Reliability and alot of power usually don't go together. I personally would go with pure and stay in the low 23psi range to keep everything safe, sure it won't net u the 600whp,but at the same time you will be alot safer at 23psi vs 27psi..just my opinion


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Default 11-18-2016, 10:34 PM

Top mount with a Garrett Gtw turbo imo


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Default 11-18-2016, 11:15 PM

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Reliability and alot of power usually don't go together. I personally would go with pure and stay in the low 23psi range to keep everything safe, sure it won't net u the 600whp,but at the same time you will be alot safer at 23psi vs 27psi..just my opinion
This, you don't need to max it out to have a fun reliable setup.


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Default 11-18-2016, 11:19 PM

I'm looking to whatever will yield me the most hp all while letting me get atleast 50k out of the turbos... tall order I know.


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Default 11-18-2016, 11:23 PM

Thanks for all your votes and comments so far.

I did forget two main options:


1. Hexon Hybrid 2 RR600
2. JP Workz Full Top Mount Precision Journal Bearing Kit



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I know it doesn't make sense, power and reliability. The idea would be to run early 20's PSI for daily cruising. With the capability to do glory runs at higher PSI levels no problem. Just don't want the turbo's to be the bottleneck and have to worry about swapping them out if the power level isn't satisfying enough....
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Default 11-18-2016, 11:56 PM

Hexon's aren't an option currently


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Default 11-19-2016, 12:56 AM

When it comes to a topmount the what you gain between turbos is more spool and reliability over power. Every brand has one that will make the power you want.


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Default 11-19-2016, 06:53 AM

you forgot A&D engineering bottom mount.
Thats what I ordered. Better heat management.


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Default 11-19-2016, 01:35 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonnevis
Thanks for all your votes and comments so far.

I did forget two main options:


1. Hexon Hybrid 2 RR600
2. JP Workz Full Top Mount Precision Journal Bearing Kit



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I know it doesn't make sense, power and reliability. The idea would be to run early 20's PSI for daily cruising. With the capability to do glory runs at higher PSI levels no problem. Just don't want the turbo's to be the bottleneck and have to worry about swapping them out if the power level isn't satisfying enough....
Two of the worst companies in this market lol.

FWIW, I've had my VM top mount for over 50k miles as a DD since Apr 2014. I would take it anywhere. Camping trips, Vegas, etc, all over 250+ miles each way. No issues ever at all.


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Default 11-19-2016, 05:39 PM

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Thanks for all your votes and comments so far.

I did forget two main options:


1. Hexon Hybrid 2 RR600
2. JP Workz Full Top Mount Precision Journal Bearing Kit



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I know it doesn't make sense, power and reliability. The idea would be to run early 20's PSI for daily cruising. With the capability to do glory runs at higher PSI levels no problem. Just don't want the turbo's to be the bottleneck and have to worry about swapping them out if the power level isn't satisfying enough....

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Default 11-20-2016, 06:03 AM

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Hybrid Twins: Vargas GC
Bottom Mount: Motiv
Top Mount: VM/ACF
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Default 11-21-2016, 01:51 AM

My Pure Stage 2 looks like they are rattling and smoking in under 12 mnths on 19 psi...
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Default 11-21-2016, 06:58 AM

Also depends on how efficient your system is. For example, If your FMIC drops 5-10 psi, its an added stress on the turbos, making them worker harder to target a certain psi. The reliability of a turbo is a direct correlation to your supporting mods.


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Default 11-21-2016, 01:25 PM

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My Pure Stage 2 looks like they are rattling and smoking in under 12 mnths on 19 psi...
What !!! Pure turbos are smoking??? I was about to order Stage2 and I see this WTF.


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Default 11-21-2016, 01:54 PM

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My Pure Stage 2 looks like they are rattling and smoking in under 12 mnths on 19 psi...
If this is truly the turbos they offer a 1 year warranty send them in and have them checked, lots of things besides turbos can cause smoking on the n54!


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Default 11-22-2016, 07:31 AM

Don't think RB is making EVO's anymore, after speaking with him i went ADE bottom mount kit, hella simple!!

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Default 11-23-2016, 07:25 AM

What does MMP "CAST" get us?
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Default 11-23-2016, 06:04 PM

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My Pure Stage 2 looks like they are rattling and smoking in under 12 mnths on 19 psi...
Installation issue....
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