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Default 05-29-2018, 08:07 PM

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can you elaborate on this? Im searching how to do it but Im not having any luck.
:/ Maybe Donnie can help point you in the right direction. It's been a couple of years since I did it myself.

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Default 05-31-2018, 11:29 AM

Terry any chance you get to look at the tables to see if cold start was disabled by accident?
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Default 05-31-2018, 11:51 AM

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Terry any chance you get to look at the tables to see if cold start was disabled by accident?
I checked the file you mentioned (IJE0S ST) and sure enough the Cold Start Duration table is all zeros. My stock BIN and the PUMP one were set to 65, except the first column.

Assuming I am using the right XDF and looking at the right table.
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Default 05-31-2018, 11:54 AM

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I checked the file you mentioned (IJE0S ST) and sure enough the Cold Start Duration table is all zeros. My stock BIN and the PUMP one were set to 65, except the first column.

Assuming I am using the right XDF and looking at the right table.
That's what I figured
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Default 06-06-2018, 09:41 AM

Hope someone can help. I'm not sure which map is right despite reading the forums for days.

e92 2007 335i MT
Hybrid Turbos (rated at 450HP)
Down ***** with large cats
100 octane fuel
KN air filter.

On stock turbos with no BEF and on map 5 I got 377KM and 580nM (dyno results for each map here)

I want to choose the right BEF file before going on the dyno and checking each map. Currently running JB4_BB2_I8A0S_HYBRID_E85.bin
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Default 06-06-2018, 10:55 AM

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Hope someone can help. I'm not sure which map is right despite reading the forums for days.

e92 2007 335i MT
Hybrid Turbos (rated at 450HP)
Down ***** with large cats
100 octane fuel
KN air filter.

On stock turbos with no BEF and on map 5 I got 377KM and 580nM (dyno results for each map here)

I want to choose the right BEF file before going on the dyno and checking each map. Currently running JB4_BB2_I8A0S_HYBRID_E85.bin
That should be the correct one. Post logs in the support section so we can evaluate for you.


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Default 06-06-2018, 01:34 PM

Does any of the backend maps cater to hotside inlets and outlets ?

If running map3 (water/meth) should you change from pump flash to the race flash?
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Default 06-06-2018, 09:02 PM

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Does any of the backend maps cater to hotside inlets and outlets ?

If running map3 (water/meth) should you change from pump flash to the race flash?
You can try and see how the timing looks for the Race map. The hotside inlets and outlets don't need any specific flash.


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Default 06-08-2018, 11:09 AM

Are the f30 n55 MHD maps available for free? I didnt notice anything specific in the downloaded file
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Default 06-11-2018, 10:57 AM

Is this the most up to date BEF thread?

I'm a bit confused since the download is all BIN files. Do I flash the BIN file with MHD?
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Default 06-11-2018, 07:53 PM

Hey Team.

Stock n54.

I'm going to flash JB4_BB2_IJE0S_E85 and try roughly E40 (rest 98RON/93oct)
Should I use map5 or map1?

If I want to go back to Pump fuel (98RON) I'll flash:
JB4_BB2_IJE0S_PUMP I assume I should run Map1 here right?

I'll get some ******* down ***** and DCI sooner or later and use Map2 in place of Map1. But after shipping from the US and the exchange rate I'm looking at $800 minimum for the parts alone. (Australian car)
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Default 06-11-2018, 09:16 PM

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Hey Team.

Stock n54.

I'm going to flash JB4_BB2_IJE0S_E85 and try roughly E40 (rest 98RON/93oct)
Should I use map5 or map1?

If I want to go back to Pump fuel (98RON) I'll flash:
JB4_BB2_IJE0S_PUMP I assume I should run Map1 here right?

I'll get some ******* down ***** and DCI sooner or later and use Map2 in place of Map1. But after shipping from the US and the exchange rate I'm looking at $800 minimum for the parts alone. (Australian car)
Map for the E40 blend and the E85 flash.

Yes you can run map 1 for the pump flash or map 5.

Post up a log in the support section so we can evaluate it for you.


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Default 06-11-2018, 09:57 PM

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Map for the E40 blend and the E85 flash.

Yes you can run map 1 for the pump flash or map 5.

Post up a log in the support section so we can evaluate it for you.
Thanks Payam. Will do.

Which map for the E40 Blend and E85 flash though? I'm thinking map1 for the street and 5 for track (circuit), where the IAT's might get a bit hot.

Does the JB4 use fuel trims and FOL to target specific AFR's outside of Map5?
Does the E85 BEF use stock Knock detection?

Thanks again for answering my endless questions.
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Default 06-11-2018, 10:35 PM

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Thanks Payam. Will do.

Which map for the E40 Blend and E85 flash though? I'm thinking map1 for the street and 5 for track (circuit), where the IAT's might get a bit hot.

Does the JB4 use fuel trims and FOL to target specific AFR's outside of Map5?
Does the E85 BEF use stock Knock detection?

Thanks again for answering my endless questions.
Tim
For which map depends on the way you'd want it set up. You'd be fine with either or. The e40 blend and the flash does most of the work at that point.

AFR will be set in the BEF, Jb4 wont control that. The knock tables are all stock, the only way to desensitize them would be to check the box VIA MHD when loading the flash.


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Default 06-12-2018, 09:11 AM

I need some advice! Im installing PI with stock turbos atm and will run Jb4+jb4 PI controller.
Im looking at loading a BEF into the DME, but i cant decide which file to go for..

First is the "JB4_BB2_IJE0S_E85" which seems to be for stock turbo's and E85, however it is not intended for PI.
The other option is "JB4_BB2_IJE0S_HYBRID_E85_PI", however that one is for "hybrids" whatever that means. But it is atleast for E85 and PI.

So what BEF should i load?
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Default 06-22-2018, 03:46 AM

Hello guys after some help following recent new BEF on my 07' FBO JB4 335i which has been running pretty well and pulling very solid for some time now and also recently just replaced all the vacuum lines to new silicone lines.

Anyway all this in mind I decided it was a solid platform and time to up the boost, so last night with the assistance from a friend who us familiar with both JB4 and MHD we carried out a back end flash.

Once all was flashed we took the car out for a few runs only to find a lack of boost, the car now feels un-responsive particularly low end pull and power, it is all very smooth though since the BEF I have noticed when come of the throttle I can feel the engine sort of shudder. The wastegate duty appears to be maxxed instantly, so we are thinking boost leak somewhere but it's weird that this only now seems a problem following the BEF, wondering if we have missed something or have a setting out of place... any help is much appreciated? Thank you
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Default 06-22-2018, 04:59 AM

Could be a vacuum leak. Check your vacuum lines again all around.


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Default 06-23-2018, 05:10 PM

Anyone using the Motiv Flex Fuel kit along with JB4? I have a kit and was told by MOTIV I could use it for a fully integrated flex fuel backend flash but then some other people told me it doesnt work with JB4.


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Default 06-24-2018, 01:30 AM

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Hello guys after some help following recent new BEF on my 07' FBO JB4 335i which has been running pretty well and pulling very solid for some time now and also recently just replaced all the vacuum lines to new silicone lines.

Anyway all this in mind I decided it was a solid platform and time to up the boost, so last night with the assistance from a friend who us familiar with both JB4 and MHD we carried out a back end flash.

Once all was flashed we took the car out for a few runs only to find a lack of boost, the car now feels un-responsive particularly low end pull and power, it is all very smooth though since the BEF I have noticed when come of the throttle I can feel the engine sort of shudder. The wastegate duty appears to be maxxed instantly, so we are thinking boost leak somewhere but it's weird that this only now seems a problem following the BEF, wondering if we have missed something or have a setting out of place... any help is much appreciated? Thank you
Checked all the vacuum lines and they are all fine. Gonna try changing the right hand side intercooler pipe work that leads to the charge pipe. Are my logs looking ok, any thing seem out of check? Thank you.
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Default 07-01-2018, 01:19 PM

Is the E85 map for stock turbo's really suitable for high E content?
Im running about E90 but im experiencing shudder and misfires during cold starts.. Did not do it with E30 and mhd stg 1+ E30
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Default 07-02-2018, 07:58 AM

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Is the E85 map for stock turbo's really suitable for high E content?
Im running about E90 but im experiencing shudder and misfires during cold starts.. Did not do it with E30 and mhd stg 1+ E30
Full E85 and cold start issues are normal.


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Default 07-02-2018, 08:50 PM

Short video on how to attach the JB4 Mobile module:



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Default 07-03-2018, 08:58 AM

Nice video, this should really help!


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Default 07-07-2018, 10:03 AM

In the early stages of a custom tune and my tuner has asked me to switch to map 6 in the latest revision,to increase WG Bias by 10 and change FF to 100
I am guessing FF refers to FF/wastegate adaptation.... which default is currently set to 150

WG BIAS....is this referring to default wastegate position??
Currently that is 88
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