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Default MT vs DCT - 06-27-2015, 10:02 AM

hi guys

I need new car with n54 engine. Hp goals will be 700+whp.
Car will be used for drag racing, track days, donut fun))

Would like to know which one will you suggest MT or DCT?

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Default 06-27-2015, 11:27 AM

Only way you'll get a N54 with a DCT is to buy a 335is. For your HP goals your best bet will be to go with a MT. If you do get a DCT you'll need a clutch pack upgrade like the one Dodson offers.
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Default 06-27-2015, 11:32 AM

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Only way you'll get a N54 with a DCT is to buy a 335is. For your HP goals your best bet will be to go with a MT. If you do get a DCT you'll need a clutch pack upgrade like the one Dodson offers.
I have one 335is in mind. Will dodson handle such torque and power?


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Default 06-27-2015, 11:32 AM

I'm sure they can both handle it. Just depends how much money you want to put into it. DCT will prob be 4k$ more just because of building the tranny etc.


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Default 06-27-2015, 11:38 AM

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I'm sure they can both handle it. Just depends how much money you want to put into it. DCT will prob be 4k$ more just because of building the tranny etc.
The reason im looking for new car with mt is that putting more power on my 335xi AT will cost me lot of money. Basicly seems that MT will be cheaper. However MT dual clutch upgrade costs about 2000$ right?


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Default 06-27-2015, 12:03 PM

MT is single clutch, upgrade 1.300 with SMFW+ work. DCT is dual clutch, upgrade 4.000.


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Default 06-27-2015, 12:12 PM

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MT is single clutch, upgrade 1.300 with SMFW+ work. DCT is dual clutch, upgrade 4.000.
I was speaking about http://www.topgearsolutions.com/clma08bmw133.html


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Default 06-27-2015, 12:28 PM

Price for full DCT build is still unknown. Dodson clutches work wonders for me, but actual DCT is in their hands currently for a FULL build (sticky who lol?)
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Default 07-01-2015, 04:09 AM

I was not wanting to go auto after driving manuals most of my life. When I tried the AT in the 335i I was pleasantly surprised. I held out for a DCT though and these boxes are just amazing. So smooth in daily driving. So quick to shift when going WOT and so cool the way if blips the throttle automatically on downshifts.

A manual will be great for driving experience but in reality if you want to go as fast as possible with an N54, get the DCT.

I'd hope I can always drive DCT equipped cars but with the new 8 speed boxes in newer BMWs the thought of having to go to an auto is not too bad.


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Default 07-01-2015, 04:35 AM

I have Xi AT for daily drive(used to mode it now its stock) and I had 135i MT in past, which I loved very much. The reason I cant decide is I want to have high hp car but want to keep driving experience. but in the other hand dct will be faster )) its hard


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I was not wanting to go auto after driving manuals most of my life. When I tried the AT in the 335i I was pleasantly surprised. I held out for a DCT though and these boxes are just amazing. So smooth in daily driving. So quick to shift when going WOT and so cool the way if blips the throttle automatically on downshifts.

A manual will be great for driving experience but in reality if you want to go as fast as possible with an N54, get the DCT.

I'd hope I can always drive DCT equipped cars but with the new 8 speed boxes in newer BMWs the thought of having to go to an auto is not too bad.


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Default 07-01-2015, 07:10 AM

do you want a fast auto tranny cah or fast MT cah, this is the real question.


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Default 07-01-2015, 08:00 AM

DCT is obviously a higher price from go with the vehicle price difference. I went manual because the cost difference of the cars was enough to mod the MT car to the hilt before even approaching the 335is vehicle cost.

That being said, after a ride in a modded M4 with DCT. I had some buyers remorse... lol

I would say a fully built single turbo 335is with your power goals and a built DCT to handle it would be one of the funnest cars on the planet.
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Default 01-12-2016, 07:00 PM

so what is the point where the 335is/135i DCT starts slipping? I'm about to pull the trigger on a car this week and there is a 335is DCT local. It's super nice. I just don't want the tranny slipping with just bolt ons and meth. I'd be pretty pissed.


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Default 01-12-2016, 07:16 PM

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so what is the point where the 335is/135i DCT starts slipping? I'm about to pull the trigger on a car this week and there is a 335is DCT local. It's super nice. I just don't want the tranny slipping with just bolt ons and meth. I'd be pretty pissed.
I'm at 460/530 and it's fine.


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