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Default Plans for integrating JB4 with MHD flex fuel? - 09-10-2018, 09:00 AM
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What are the plans for integrating MHD's flex fuel release with the JB4? I was thinking we could keep the JB4 controlling boost and PI as is but maybe make use of some timing and fuel scalars.

Perhaps you guys are already working on development?

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Default 09-10-2018, 09:09 AM
IIRC He's working on it.

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Default 09-10-2018, 11:32 AM
Had the same convo with Terry. As cool as this is I am moving to 100% E85 which invalidates the need. Side note I have the Module and the Short line kit for sale for those who are looking to go that route :-)


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Default 09-10-2018, 07:21 PM
Yes we're working on incorporating a few of the new table blends in to our bef.

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Default 09-10-2018, 09:09 PM
I would love for this to happen.

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Default 09-11-2018, 06:25 AM
JB4 adaptation for Motiv flexfuel ECS as well as backend flash compatibility would be awesome
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Default 09-12-2018, 08:21 AM
We have one of the MHD adapters coming for Payam's car and we'll use that to develop the new MHD E85 compatible JB4 BEF maps on site.

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Default 09-13-2018, 09:25 AM
Is there any ballpark timeline for release? Not to rush or anything I'm perfectly fine without flex fuel. Deciding whether to sell my flex fuel kit or not.

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Default 09-13-2018, 09:52 AM
I can't imagine more than a few weeks? The JB4 already integrates PI volume on ethanol flow so what we're looking to do with the new tables is incorporate timing and fuel trims, and then reconfigure the JB4 map to also scale boost, for a fully integrated easy to use setup that adapts to any mixture.

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Default 10-24-2018, 08:27 AM
Would flashing a mhd flex fuel map then using the jb4 for boost control only work? I think option 4/4
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Default 10-24-2018, 08:41 AM
No but we can provide a JB4 BEF map compatible with the MHD flex fuel sensor, just need more cars running the setup to work on it. So email me once you have their sensor setup installed.

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Default 12-09-2018, 04:42 PM
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No but we can provide a JB4 BEF map compatible with the MHD flex fuel sensor, just need more cars running the setup to work on it. So email me once you have their sensor setup installed.
I am having this sensor installed soon along with upgraded turbos, I need your help lol , more info on the other post I responded to.

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Default 12-09-2018, 04:48 PM
We will post jb4 maps for it next week hopefully

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Default 12-09-2018, 10:41 PM
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We will post jb4 maps for it next week hopefully
Sweet! Can you comment on what I need to buy? Just the normal Motiv flex fuel stuff or are you gonna have a BMS kit or what?

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They sent us one of their kits to play with, so we'll evaluate that all as we go. What flex fuel sensor are you using currently?

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Default 12-11-2018, 04:38 PM
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They sent us one of their kits to play with, so we'll evaluate that all as we go. What flex fuel sensor are you using currently?
I don't have anything, I was waiting for you guys to choose a direction, haha

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Got it! The plan is to use Fuel-IT's kit without their analyzer, and then the Motiv analyzer kit, which plugs in to the ECU. The JB4 side reads the E85 mix off the ECU, and in conjunction with a Motiv E85 specific flex fuel BEF map, does the tuning. Little projects keep popping up but we've got the stuff ready to go on Payam's 335 to make an install guide, etc.

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Default 12-11-2018, 11:35 PM
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Got it! The plan is to use Fuel-IT's kit without their analyzer, and then the Motiv analyzer kit, which plugs in to the ECU. The JB4 side reads the E85 mix off the ECU, and in conjunction with a Motiv E85 specific flex fuel BEF map, does the tuning. Little projects keep popping up but we've got the stuff ready to go on Payam's 335 to make an install guide, etc.
Do you think you will put together a combo kit for sale in the future?

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Got it! The plan is to use Fuel-IT's kit without their analyzer, and then the Motiv analyzer kit, which plugs in to the ECU. The JB4 side reads the E85 mix off the ECU, and in conjunction with a Motiv E85 specific flex fuel BEF map, does the tuning. Little projects keep popping up but we've got the stuff ready to go on Payam's 335 to make an install guide, etc.
Great news, having customers waiting for the complete jb4 integration with the MHD/Motiv flex fuel kit.

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Default 12-12-2018, 09:34 AM
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Do you think you will put together a combo kit for sale in the future?
I have to spend some more time with it but maybe.

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Great news, having customers waiting for the complete jb4 integration with the MHD/Motiv flex fuel kit.
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Default 12-14-2018, 10:15 PM
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Got it! The plan is to use Fuel-IT's kit without their analyzer, and then the Motiv analyzer kit, which plugs in to the ECU. The JB4 side reads the E85 mix off the ECU, and in conjunction with a Motiv E85 specific flex fuel BEF map, does the tuning. Little projects keep popping up but we've got the stuff ready to go on Payam's 335 to make an install guide, etc.
exact setup I purchased, I got the flex fuel with upgraded lines and Motiv flex fuel box, lmk when those maps are ready Terry, Thanks.

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I have to spend some more time with it but maybe.
Sensor is plumbed.

Awaiting instructions for wiring..

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I have the maps ready, just need a quick test on our 335.

In the mean time the sensor itself installs per Motiv's directions for now.

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Default 01-03-2019, 02:20 PM
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I have the maps ready, just need a quick test on our 335.

In the mean time the sensor itself installs per Motiv's directions for now.
Bumper just arrived today. Now I have everything to fix the car. I'll put it together this weekend and bring it by for you sir!

Sorry guys, I'm the hold up

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