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Default Pure Turbo on F10 535i - 03-16-2015, 08:26 PM

Hey everyone. Would it possible to install a Pure Turbo upgrade on my F10 535i? I have a JB4 Stage 2 installed now and it's not a huge difference in power. I miss the power of my 335i. I love the car however the power is just not enough. I know I should of looked at a 550i but it's too late for that.
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Default 03-17-2015, 04:35 AM

I would ask Pure directly. I'm not sure if there is a big difference between 3 and 5 series N55.
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Default 03-17-2015, 05:14 AM

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I would ask Pure directly. I'm not sure if there is a big difference between 3 and 5 series N55.
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Default 03-17-2015, 08:22 AM

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Hey everyone. Would it possible to install a Pure Turbo upgrade on my F10 535i? I have a JB4 Stage 2 installed now and it's not a huge difference in power. I miss the power of my 335i. I love the car however the power is just not enough. I know I should of looked at a 550i but it's too late for that.
Hi Sir,

Yes. The PURE Stage 1 & 2 turbos work with your F10 535i.

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Default 03-17-2015, 08:30 AM

Hi,
I am intersetd but I can't use E85.
What is the benefit with the 93 octane only, or 93+meth?
Regarding the OEM turbo?
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Default 03-17-2015, 08:31 AM

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Hi Sir,

Yes. The PURE Stage 1 & 2 turbos work with your F10 535i.

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Thanks. You think I will make more power with your turbo and my JB4 for the tuning?
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Default 03-17-2015, 08:49 AM

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Hi,
I am intersetd but I can't use E85.
What is the benefit with the 93 octane only, or 93+meth?
Regarding the OEM turbo?
Thank you
Bets regards
With the PURE Stage 2: We have seen a F20 run 16psi with 93 and no meth. It seems maybe even 17psi is possible too

With PURE Stage 2: 93 + meth should be 17 to 20psi, which should be 450 to 500whp.

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Thanks. You think I will make more power with your turbo and my JB4 for the tuning?
Yes, you will make more power. The stock turbo is very small and chokes power capability.
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Default 03-17-2015, 08:59 AM

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With the PURE Stage 2: We have seen a F20 run 16psi with 93 and no meth. It seems maybe even 17psi is possible too

With PURE Stage 2: 93 + meth should be 17 to 20psi, which should be 450 to 500whp.
thanks for your anwser

can you please give me the same with stage 1
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Default 03-17-2015, 08:59 AM

I'm worried about not being able to make use of the upgraded turbo because of the F10 ECU. Would the JB4 be able to help with that? Most people have only been able to get 300RWHP with a JB4 and down *****.
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Default 03-17-2015, 09:17 AM

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I'm worried about not being able to make use of the upgraded turbo because of the F10 ECU. Would the JB4 be able to help with that? Most people have only been able to get 300RWHP with a JB4 and down *****.
BMS made 536 on their 435i which can't be flashed. Little different car but still an N55.
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Default 03-17-2015, 09:22 AM

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thanks for your anwser

can you please give me the same with stage 1
thanks
With PURE Stage 1: 93 and no meth is usually 14 or 15psi and 93 + meth is around 16psi +

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I'm worried about not being able to make use of the upgraded turbo because of the F10 ECU. Would the JB4 be able to help with that? Most people have only been able to get 300RWHP with a JB4 and down *****.
PURE Stage 2 + JB4 + meth kit = 450 to 536whp
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Default 03-17-2015, 09:26 AM

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I'm worried about not being able to make use of the upgraded turbo because of the F10 ECU. Would the JB4 be able to help with that? Most people have only been able to get 300RWHP with a JB4 and down *****.
Look into this:

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29249
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Default 03-17-2015, 12:00 PM

I can confirm the stage2 turbo does not need as much octane as stage1 turbo. I have run stage1 turbo for 15000 miles and now have stage2 turbo.

My 16 psi 93 octane testing only on stage2 is as fast as maxed out stage1 turbo. Further more it pulls all the way to redline. The stage 1 starts dropping power earlier. So thats another advantage for stage2 turbo.

If you have the budget get stage2 turbo. With just 93 and meth you could run 20 psi to 7k rpm. With just 93 no meth you could do 16/17 psi.

I really recommend it.


F21 M140i - 100-200: 5.18 60-130: 5.96
Audi TTRS - 100-200: 4.01 60-130: 4.5
F80 M3 - 100-200: 4.32, 60-130: 4.8
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Default 03-17-2015, 12:06 PM

Running into issues on the current 1. If things cannot be resolved I've been thinking about an f10 535 myself. It'd be #sleeperM5killer
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Running into issues on the current 1. If things cannot be resolved I've been thinking about an f10 535 myself. It'd be #sleeperM5killer
#speedboat #m5killah that f10 M5 might run you off the road but those E60 M5s wouldnt know what hit them haha


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Default 03-17-2015, 01:00 PM

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Running into issues on the current 1. If things cannot be resolved I've been thinking about an f10 535 myself. It'd be #sleeperM5killer
Dont do it! My wife has a 520d F11 touring and i drive it when out with the family. Yes besides the lack of power its just a boat. Its no fun too drive really. Its like a luxury vehicle not sporty at all. Ok maybe with a stage2 turbo'ed n55 it could be fun. But then i would rather have that in my 1er like now


F21 M140i - 100-200: 5.18 60-130: 5.96
Audi TTRS - 100-200: 4.01 60-130: 4.5
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F20 M135i (sold) - 100-200: 6.26 , 60-130: 7.4
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Default 03-17-2015, 01:36 PM

Do they fit a 535i xdrive?sorry if i missed it
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Do they fit a 535i xdrive?sorry if i missed it
They said yes however not sure if the tuning would work well on the F10. Maybe Terry could answer that for us. For $1000 that's a great upgrade.
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Do they fit a 535i xdrive?sorry if i missed it
Yes. Our turbos work with the X-drive. When ordering, we do need the last 7 of your VIN to confirm the OE turbo part number.

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They said yes however not sure if the tuning would work well on the F10. Maybe Terry could answer that for us. For $1000 that's a great upgrade.
We are not aware of a F10 tuning issue ? Could you explain what issue you're talking about?

All the F-series cars running the PURE Stage 2 are running very well. The JB4 works great. Many recent JB4 updates are available for F-series now too.
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Default 03-17-2015, 03:03 PM

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If you have the budget get stage2 turbo. With just 93 and meth you could run 20 psi to 7k rpm. With just 93 no meth you could do 16/17 psi.
is it necessary to upgrade to Fuel-IT LPFP Stage2 ?
what map do you run?
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is it necessary to upgrade to Fuel-IT LPFP Stage2 ?
what map do you run?
thanls
I am not sure about the flow of the LPFP of 5 series cars.
However on my F20 the flow is HPFP limited, not LPFP. I did the LPFP swap to see if that helps but I found the limit to be on the HPFP side.

So if F10 HPFP and LPFP are similar to my F20 then the limit will be on HPFP as well. So you wouldn't need an LPFP upgrade at all if you just run 93 octane.

With stage1 or stage2 turbo it's best that you run a custom map6 boost curve to take advantage of the flow to redline. But maybe Terry will make a custom Pure stage2 firmware that has preset maps for our turbo in the near future.


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I am not sure about the flow of the LPFP of 5 series cars.
However on my F20 the flow is HPFP limited, not LPFP. I did the LPFP swap to see if that helps but I found the limit to be on the HPFP side.

So if F10 HPFP and LPFP are similar to my F20 then the limit will be on HPFP as well. So you wouldn't need an LPFP upgrade at all if you just run 93 octane.

With stage1 or stage2 turbo it's best that you run a custom map6 boost curve to take advantage of the flow to redline. But maybe Terry will make a custom Pure stage2 firmware that has preset maps for our turbo in the near future.

will still need hpfp for 93 octane only?



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will still need hpfp for 93 octane only?
You mean LPFP I assume? If you just run 93 octane you are fine with the stock fuel system. Add meth and you have a killer car!


F21 M140i - 100-200: 5.18 60-130: 5.96
Audi TTRS - 100-200: 4.01 60-130: 4.5
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Hey everyone. Would it possible to install a Pure Turbo upgrade on my F10 535i? I have a JB4 Stage 2 installed now and it's not a huge difference in power. I miss the power of my 335i. I love the car however the power is just not enough. I know I should of looked at a 550i but it's too late for that.

I feel your pain. I loved my 335 JB4/Pump Flash and after receiving my F10 I was thinking the same. I should of got the 550 :/


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On my F10 535i, I'm running JB4, DP, and a 25/75 mix of E85/93.

Can I expect at +50whp by moving to Pure Stage 1?

I'd love to be at 400whp on E85+93, and 360whp on 93 alone.


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