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WMI discussion here: https://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56205


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Default 12-17-2018, 09:46 AM

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It's an add on wire to the JB4 harness we're experimenting with that lets it adjust the IAT, originally was testing it for timing control but found it's more useful in situations where we need to increase the flash target. Like really cold weather, with primary *** deletes. For now it's just an experimental thing I'm testing with a couple customers.
Would this help at all with secondary deletes?
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Default 12-17-2018, 10:04 AM

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Would this help at all with secondary deletes?
Don't think so, testing it for primary combined with very cold weather, where throttle closure is an issue due to the low factory boost target in cold weather. The better solution for them longer term will be JB4 EWG control but we're still working on that. The EWG control is going to open up the tuning for larger turbos down the road.


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Default 12-17-2018, 11:59 AM

Hey terry I did some test runs on map 0-3 today. No issues so far car pulls very hard and smooth. My afr are around mid to high 11s. I did notice When I did a pull on map 0 in 3rd and my afr are around the same as with all the other maps. Does map 0 not disable everything? Like it drops boost down to stock but fuel changes are still active. Iím running a e85 mix right now if that helps.

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Default 12-17-2018, 12:16 PM

@Terry,

In some of my logs the "oilf" value is a constant 200, in others it is a constant 0.

Is this an oil temperature switch or is there something else going on?
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@Terry,

In some of my logs the "oilf" value is a constant 200, in others it is a constant 0.

Is this an oil temperature switch or is there something else going on?
Oil logging isn't active currently. If you press WMI purge then that is probably what you're seeing in the log, that doubles as a diagnostic button for internal tests we do on the unit prior to shipment.


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Hey terry I did some test runs on map 0-3 today. No issues so far car pulls very hard and smooth. My afr are around mid to high 11s. I did notice When I did a pull on map 0 in 3rd and my afr are around the same as with all the other maps. Does map 0 not disable everything? Like it drops boost down to stock but fuel changes are still active. Iím running a e85 mix right now if that helps.

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Let me see the map0 log, it should disable fuel control. I can tell from the log and the fuel enrichment parameter.


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Default 12-17-2018, 01:14 PM

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Let me see the map0 log, it should disable fuel control. I can tell from the log and the fuel enrichment parameter.
here is a short map 0 and a map 2 and 3 pull.2018-12-17 10_33_37 Map-0.csv

2018-12-17 10_43_11 Map-2.csv

2018-12-17 10_36_52 Map-3.csv

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Default 12-17-2018, 01:24 PM

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here is a short map 0 and a map 2 and 3 pull.
You can tell fuel control is not active on your map 0 log because the parameters 'fuelen' (bank 1 bias) and 'calc_torque' (bank 2 bias) are both 0 throughout the run. Your other logs show these with values indicating that fuel control is active
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You can tell fuel control is not active on your map 0 log because the parameters 'fuelen' (bank 1 bias) and 'calc_torque' (bank 2 bias) are both 0 throughout the run. Your other logs show these with values indicating that fuel control is active
Thanks now I know what to look for. I wonder why my car is so lean then. Even the runs with fuel wires it does not seem to need to run a leaner afr through most of the rpm range.
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here is a short map 0 and a map 2 and 3 pull.Attachment 82026

Attachment 82027

Attachment 82028

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Looks off on map0 to me! If you do a longer run with shifts you should see AFR go to 10:1 on the map0 without fuel control.

The fuel control is meant to balance out the COT mapping in the DME that targets a rich AFR as modeled EGT increases.


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Default 12-17-2018, 04:05 PM

New to the group guys! Purchased a 2019 Stinger GT AWD a few weeks ago and I have to say, I'm really enjoying the car. I have about 1200 miles on it and installed intakes and muffler delete. Gapped factory plugs to .022 as well, thanks to the tips in this thread.

Purchased a JB4 w/fuel wires and wireless connectivity this past weekend and I'm super stoked to get it installed on the car. Let me know if you guys have any tips on anything and I look forward being part of the group.

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Default 12-17-2018, 06:24 PM

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New to the group guys! Purchased a 2019 Stinger GT AWD a few weeks ago and I have to say, I'm really enjoying the car. I have about 1200 miles on it and installed intakes and muffler delete. Gapped factory plugs to .022 as well, thanks to the tips in this thread.

Purchased a JB4 w/fuel wires and wireless connectivity this past weekend and I'm super stoked to get it installed on the car. Let me know if you guys have any tips on anything and I look forward being part of the group.
FYI - not sure you want to gap the stock plugs to 0.022, thatís too tight for those (right terry?). You need the colder densos to do that I think
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FYI - not sure you want to gap the stock plugs to 0.022, thatís too tight for those (right terry?). You need the colder densos to do that I think
I have stock plugs gapped to .024 with no issues so far Iíve run all the maps but run 2 and 3 mostly. That being said I wish I would have put a colder plug now.
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Default 12-17-2018, 07:03 PM

With v7_BETA3 it appears the passive delete change made didn't work so I reversed it for now.

For using using that feature update and let me know. For those not using it no reason to update that is the only change from BETA2.


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I have stock plugs gapped to .024 with no issues so far Iíve run all the maps but run 2 and 3 mostly. That being said I wish I would have put a colder plug now.
You can gap stock plugs down to 0.020 if you want, no problem at all. But given all the work to take it apart for me the Denso's make more sense. They are a better plug IMHO.


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For some reason I can't find Calc Tq on the log. Am I missing it?
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For some reason I can't find Calc Tq on the log. Am I missing it?
You're on the latest firmware? It's on column n
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Yes I'm on the latest firmware.
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Where is column n?
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Where is column n?
Sorry I'm on mobile, but here.
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Default 12-18-2018, 04:24 PM

I'm lost what your trying to say. I'm on the latest firmware. But I do not see the Calc Tq anywhere.
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For some reason I can't find Calc Tq on the log. Am I missing it?
Why looking at CSV? Email log to yourself and view on windows app, or on phone in graph format. May be called dutycycle still in CSV.

I sort of doubt the data itself matters to around 99.9% of you on that parameter... Do you guys know what you're looking at with it?


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Default 12-18-2018, 10:27 PM

I believe it is still called duty cycle


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Default 12-19-2018, 07:42 AM

Another 60-130 log. Although the boost isn't as high as the last few logs I've posted, but this is my best time so far.

Map 3 on v7 Beta.

Still E30-ish in the tank (about 1/3 tank so weight may be the factor).

Note - not a 1/4 mile time (I wish!)

Next chance, I will try a 1-shift and a 0-shift pull.
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